trickflow 215cc install???
08-23-2009, 07:37 AM
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trickflow 215cc install??? So I installed tfs 215's on my stock ls1, bought the whole install kit. After i tightened the non adj harland sharps some of the rockers are still loose. Could this be because the lifters are not pumped up???
08-23-2009, 08:54 PM
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they seem loose because the lifters bled down. as for pushrod length...you should measure...please let us know the cam specs and lobes used along with how much the heads were milled, what head gasket, lifters used, if the rockers were shimmed for wipe.
My suggestion...get wipe and all correct...then measure for pushrod length...spend 3k+ on a HC package...dont skimp on not KNOWING your valvetrain is set up correctly...buy your self a $20 pushrod length checker or make your own for that matter
My suggestion...get wipe and all correct...then measure for pushrod length...spend 3k+ on a HC package...dont skimp on not KNOWING your valvetrain is set up correctly...buy your self a $20 pushrod length checker or make your own for that matter
08-23-2009, 10:05 PM
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First off the lifters should not be "pumped up," that will set off your push rod length and the correct preload set. When you presoak them they become more like solid lifters, giving you the incorrect rod length and preload setting. Me you I would get the correct preload numbers from the retailer, use a rod length checker get the correct rod length and do it like that. Taking any ones "word" no matter how much experience while they might have some weight, because I dom't want a hell of a lot of back lash, they'll agree that they are not working on your particular car.
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08-24-2009, 07:23 AM
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assuming he installed new lifters and not reused stockers
First off the lifters should not be "pumped up," that will set off your push rod length and the correct preload set. When you presoak them they become more like solid lifters, giving you the incorrect rod length and preload setting. Me you I would get the correct preload numbers from the retailer, use a rod length checker get the correct rod length and do it like that. Taking any ones "word" no matter how much experience while they might have some weight, because I dom't want a hell of a lot of back lash, they'll agree that they are not working on your particular car.
08-24-2009, 10:39 AM
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You lost me here...For a second I thought it might be Tom Cruise typing this paragraph.
Me you I would get the correct preload numbers from the retailer, use a rod length checker get the correct rod length and do it like that. Taking any ones "word" no matter how much experience while they might have some weight, because I dom't want a hell of a lot of back lash, they'll agree that they are not working on your particular car.
08-24-2009, 09:14 PM
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wow what a garbage response from the OP you provided us with near nothing...again...what head gaskets (thickness), any shimming of the rockers, lifters, did you measure for preload, did you set valve tip wipe, cam specs and lobes.
08-24-2009, 09:15 PM
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Stock rockers + $15.00 T&D shim kit + proper pushrod length (~7.625") = no valve float, good geometry and $300+ left in your pocket...
Been there, done that. MANY times...
Just a suggestion.
Shane
Been there, done that. MANY times...
Just a suggestion.
Shane
08-25-2009, 11:42 AM
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All I can say is anyone is welcome at my shop anytime to observe. You know the old saying about "Leading a horse to water..."?
08-25-2009, 12:06 PM
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Nope, did a search and saw many failures. I also found that HS has since corrected the issue, but I'd rather go with the YT's. Have a few friends that ran HS's and had issues. That is why I went with YT's vs using the corrected HS's. Any other smart *** questions?
08-25-2009, 12:57 PM
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oh, so you have no first hand experience with them then. Seems like you're the one with the useless post doesn't it. Just able to regurgitate other peoples' views and experiences. I wonder what that must be like.
Don't get dizzy from all the nut swinging.
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Did they tell you that at Vengence?
Nope, did a search and saw many failures. I also found that HS has since corrected the issue, but I'd rather go with the YT's. Have a few friends that ran HS's and had issues. That is why I went with YT's vs using the corrected HS's. Any other smart *** questions?
Don't get dizzy from all the nut swinging.
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Did they tell you that at Vengence?
Nope, did a search and saw many failures. I also found that HS has since corrected the issue, but I'd rather go with the YT's. Have a few friends that ran HS's and had issues. That is why I went with YT's vs using the corrected HS's. Any other smart *** questions?
08-25-2009, 01:11 PM
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haha...XtraCajun...while that would be a good option had he not already dropped coin on the rockers hes just looking to get going with whats hes got. If everybodys bringing up failures Im sure the OEM part is leading that pack(needle bearings crappin out)...with HS coming in second...and YT bringing up the rear
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I fell ya man
oh, so you have no first hand experience with them then. Seems like you're the one with the useless post doesn't it. Just able to regurgitate other peoples' views and experiences. I wonder what that must be like.
Don't get dizzy from all the nut swinging.
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Did they tell you that at Vengence?
Nope, did a search and saw many failures. I also found that HS has since corrected the issue, but I'd rather go with the YT's. Have a few friends that ran HS's and had issues. That is why I went with YT's vs using the corrected HS's. Any other smart *** questions?
Don't get dizzy from all the nut swinging.
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
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Originally Posted by Hilton
Did they tell you that at Vengence?
Nope, did a search and saw many failures. I also found that HS has since corrected the issue, but I'd rather go with the YT's. Have a few friends that ran HS's and had issues. That is why I went with YT's vs using the corrected HS's. Any other smart *** questions?
08-25-2009, 03:06 PM
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***** too! I've been running the H.S's. since 2007 with no issues what soever. Just because I run a certain product doesn't make it the best on the market. However,I can say that the H.S. rockers have performed great on my heavily modded engine and I would recommend them if anyone asked my opinion.