Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

What to set Preload for on Comp R Lifters?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-07-2003, 04:14 PM
  #1  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Bear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Long Island,NY
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default What to set Preload for on Comp R Lifters?

Hey I have been lurking around and I am wonderingwhat the preoad should be. My car is alomost done and I am also using YT rockers. I have seen some problems with cars and YT and whatnot. I have been told by JPR that this wont be a problem and I BELIVE HIM, but what signs should I look for if there IS trouble.
Preload for Comp R===?
Signs of bad YT's====? Thanks Bear
Old 12-07-2003, 06:55 PM
  #2  
LS1Tech Co-Founder
iTrader: (34)
 
Pro Stock John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 44,647
Received 1,090 Likes on 718 Posts

Default

We have mine at .005 lifter preload.
Old 12-07-2003, 07:09 PM
  #3  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Bear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Long Island,NY
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
We have mine at .005 lifter preload.
PSJ How many "turns" is that?
Old 12-07-2003, 07:13 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
iTrader: (24)
 
Country Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 6,034
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

You cant judge by turns. Youre going to have to break out a mic
Old 12-07-2003, 09:15 PM
  #5  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (4)
 
DaleMX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Atlanta, Georgia!
Posts: 3,078
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Your going to have to horse around with the shim thickness to get the preload right. I believe the spec is .000 to .010 max.
Old 12-07-2003, 09:35 PM
  #6  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Bear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Long Island,NY
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Thanks Guys. I will talk to Joe and make sure. Any thought on the YT's?
Old 12-07-2003, 10:10 PM
  #7  
Registered User
iTrader: (15)
 
Unaffliated Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 873
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

no..its .030" that is recommended
Old 12-07-2003, 10:12 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
iTrader: (24)
 
Country Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 6,034
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by spectacle solutions
no..its .030" that is recommended
I was told .000 - .010 by Comp.
Old 12-07-2003, 10:16 PM
  #9  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Bear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Long Island,NY
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I guess I should call myself. There is no room for error. I am sure Joe knows what it is supposed to be, but I wanna be doubly sure. This motor was too much money for me not to make that phone call.
Old 12-07-2003, 11:19 PM
  #10  
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (12)
 
Slowhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Bridgewater,Ma
Posts: 14,865
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

I've been hearing .030 also..000 -.010 is very hard to get and would require each rocker to be checked and shimmed differently.Would be easier to run a solid roller.
Old 12-07-2003, 11:23 PM
  #11  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Bear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Long Island,NY
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

WTF. Y is this such a hard thing. I was hoping for an easier time with my "feelings" on this motor. Are these good lifters?
Old 12-07-2003, 11:55 PM
  #12  
TECH Enthusiast
 
Spinmonster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 721
Received 60 Likes on 28 Posts

Default

I heard the preload is less on the r's than the regulars.
Old 12-07-2003, 11:56 PM
  #13  
Registered User
iTrader: (15)
 
Unaffliated Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 873
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

ok..well you dont have to call....I've just answered your question....shhhhh!
Old 12-08-2003, 08:09 AM
  #14  
Formerly 4mulaJoe
iTrader: (11)
 
LS1x2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: hou
Posts: 2,763
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I didn't measure myself. I ran into problems with both stock pushrods(too much preload) and 7.35(not enough). I tried a few different shims. With a .015" shim it was just right. So the answer is not very much at all. I am happy with these lifter spinning up to 7k and more.
Old 12-08-2003, 12:12 PM
  #15  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
white2001s10's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Fairview Heights Illinois
Posts: 1,851
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 4mulaJoe
I didn't measure myself. I ran into problems with both stock pushrods(too much preload) and 7.35(not enough). I tried a few different shims. With a .015" shim it was just right. So the answer is not very much at all. I am happy with these lifter spinning up to 7k and more.
What kind of symptoms were you having when you had too much preload? Hard starting? or trouble pulling high RPM?

What happens when you have too much preload on stock lifters?
Old 12-08-2003, 12:16 PM
  #16  
Formerly 4mulaJoe
iTrader: (11)
 
LS1x2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: hou
Posts: 2,763
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I could just tell the preload was too tight from the sound at idle. It loped like it had only 2 valves in the car. No chop. You distinctly heard one set of valves open, then another set all at the same time. Dunno if that makes any sense, but it is easy to tell.
Old 12-08-2003, 12:46 PM
  #17  
LS1Tech Co-Founder
iTrader: (34)
 
Pro Stock John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 44,647
Received 1,090 Likes on 718 Posts

Default

"heard"

Comp recommends zero lash to .010 not .030.

I'm not making this up. Call them up and correct me.

Stock lifter preload is .050 FYI.
Old 12-08-2003, 02:34 PM
  #18  
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (12)
 
Slowhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Bridgewater,Ma
Posts: 14,865
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

Most stock lifters I've measured are .100 +.Mostly .130.

.010 would be 1/8 turn preload.
Old 12-08-2003, 02:43 PM
  #19  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
white2001s10's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Fairview Heights Illinois
Posts: 1,851
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
"heard"

Comp recommends zero lash to .010 not .030.

I'm not making this up. Call them up and correct me.

Stock lifter preload is .050 FYI.
PSJ, Suppose you ran your preload to the maximum recommended. Would this possibly require more valve seat pressure from your springs to keep the valves seated?
Old 12-08-2003, 05:06 PM
  #20  
Staging Lane
 
PHATKOP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: PHILLY, PA
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Question Lifter Preload....Why?

Bear,
Why would it matter what the Lifter preload is when JPR built your motor. Also not to start trash talking, but dyno numbers don't mean nothing. You can have 500 hp and that don't make your car fast. The bottom line is ET.


PHATKOP



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:27 PM.