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Old 01-10-2010, 10:43 AM
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Hey I was wondering if any of you have used TRs cheater camshaft? I want to know what you thought of it and how easy it was to tune. Also how was it power wise?
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No one has any experience with this cam or the Old Man cam? How about TSP 224R Cam?
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My gf has the 224r with a yank 3600 in her TA.
It drives like stock with more power throughout the entire rpm range.
It has a nice steady lope, but nothing to attract too much attention.
I would recommend it for a tame DD that still gets great mpg.
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Ive seen a couple of guys make close to 400 with just the cam. Also some with head and cam made over 400.
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Originally Posted by HitmanLS1
Ive seen a couple of guys make close to 400 with just the cam. Also some with head and cam made over 400.
which can was that
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Originally Posted by LS12Fast4U
Hey I was wondering if any of you have used TRs cheater camshaft? I want to know what you thought of it and how easy it was to tune. Also how was it power wise?


The CheaTR camshaft drives and idles like stock. The tune is really not hard for that particular camshaft. I have had some cars leave on the stock tune.



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Originally Posted by LS12Fast4U
Hey I was wondering if any of you have used TRs cheater camshaft? I want to know what you thought of it and how easy it was to tune. Also how was it power wise?
Put it in a friends car a while back with a m6 and a non ported fast 90/90 it put down 401whp and sounded stock
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Originally Posted by LS12Fast4U
which can was that

cheater cam
Old 01-12-2010, 06:52 AM
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TR Cheater cam is GREAT power everywhere and the driveability is awesome....
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Originally Posted by SIC LSX
Put it in a friends car a while back with a m6 and a non ported fast 90/90 it put down 401whp and sounded stock
wow thats a lot of power out of a baby cam
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how does th cheatr compare to the lge gt11 cam? anybody have experience with the two?
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Mines a sort DD and I was thinking about TR cheater cam with some longtubes and soon down the line LS6 heads.
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Originally Posted by SIC LSX
Put it in a friends car a while back with a m6 and a non ported fast 90/90 it put down 401whp and sounded stock
What kind of heads did he have?
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Stock 02 241 heads! That was with no tune other then air pump and rear 02's deleted, Stock pulley, dynatech long tubes, 2.5" y-pipe and magnaflow carback. so it had more in it It had. So he could of got 415 out of it easy
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Good info here thanks for posting, been looking at the TRcheater/AFR 205 package hoping to get to the 400hp mark. I'm A4 so what size stall would you recommended for this package.
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lol car i posted about on here was a 35th le too! Im not a fan of AFR heads i think they are over priced but i hear this cam works great with then! Makes good power and a good combo. You can ever go wrong with a yank SS3600 stall

here is my friends car b4 he sold it
https://ls1tech.com/forums/northwest...tacoma-wa.html

and the dyno thread
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...14-1-96-a.html

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Well with my set up which cam would yield more power and better drivability? The cheater cam or the old man cam? Those are the two im looking at. I would think they will both be very easy to tune also, the guy who is tuning my car uses HP Tuners but he has only been doing it for 6 months or so. I havent heard any feed back on his shop so i have been skeptical about using him.
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Thanks for the feedback, not bad #'s on that LE with supporting mods and stock heads. TR sells the AFR's fully prepped as part of the package including the cam. Looks like he was using the older version there's a slightly bigger Cheater cam.
" CheaTR v.3" - 219/230 .607/.604 117 LSA vs. the 214/230 .601/.575 117 LSA he was using.

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"Old Man Cam" - 214/220 .600/.523 115 LSA

"CheaTR v.3" - 219/230 .607/.604 117 LSA

I'm leaning towards the Cheater myself & TR themselves posted that some guys left on stock tune, prob on M6, A4 needs some tuning.
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So maybe I will do the cheater TR can. It sounds like it will. Make great power.
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I wonder what the spring life difference would be when using the Cheatr V.3 VS. something more spring friendly..like the GT2-3? I wonder if the more aggressive lobes of the Cheatr cam and resulting decrease in spring longevity, would be worth the extra low end torque over a more spring friendly cam..


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