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Question want to make 420hp an over 400tq are more what do u think ill do?

i just want 420hp an over 400 tq at the wheels are more would be great which my buddy told me 2day with his set up trex cam 660 lift springs an hardend stock length rods an fast 90/90 an hptuner with 6speed an 12 bolt with slicks with the 241 heads stock an stock maf an a nick willison tb with 42# injectors made 457hp an 409 tq at the wheels thats good for me! An am goin with a fast 92/92 an same cam an valve train so i sould be rite with him i hope an using 42# injectors. ill be usin a covette fuel rail tho for the ls1 swap tho the motor will me goin into a 69 camaro ss.
what do u all think about this setup an do u all think ill get my goal that am goin for on hp an tq?
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for crying out loud we need a spell/grammer check option in the text box...

that setup sounds pretty good. Just depends what your going for. The first thing that comes to mind with that build is it doesn't sound like it'll be very street friendly. You plan on driving this car all the time? or just a weekend fun car? It's one thing to have power, but another to have comfortable/enjoyable power.

otherwise, I say go for it. I think what you listed as mods will definately make your goals obtainable, and then some...
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Originally Posted by Soul TKR
for crying out loud we need a spell/grammer check option in the text box...

that setup sounds pretty good. Just depends what your going for. The first thing that comes to mind with that build is it doesn't sound like it'll be very street friendly. You plan on driving this car all the time? or just a weekend fun car? It's one thing to have power, but another to have comfortable/enjoyable power.

otherwise, I say go for it. I think what you listed as mods will definately make your goals obtainable, and then some...
ya am not to good an spellin lol an its just 5am here lol am bot to go to bed an my car is a weekend getter an sometime to work but thats just 12 miles on way i do drive on the Interstate alot were i have the tko 600 5speed tho. an take it on long hauls an out of state sometime tho u think that will be a problem? an what power do u think ill put down? what my buddy did are diff.
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The power your after can be had with a smaller cam. If peak #'s is what you want then go for the bigger cams. Have you even looked at the specs on the trex? 242/248 - .608/.612 - 110 lsa 3500-6700 RPM Power Band. Without a dead on tune this big sumbeech is gonna drive like **** it seems. A high 22x-mid 23x cam will be much better imo or better yet get you a custom cam spec'd out. Contact Pat G on here and he can set you up with something good for your goals. Bigger doesnt always mean better. You said your buddy made 457hp and 409tq right? Where did he make it at? If he made it at 6500rpms you need to ask yourself how often will you see that? If you want more useable power all the way across the power band then a smaller cam will do that. I'm not sayin bigger cams wont, but most dont.
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Originally Posted by blue98Z
The power your after can be had with a smaller cam. If peak #'s is what you want then go for the bigger cams. Have you even looked at the specs on the trex? 242/248 - .608/.612 - 110 lsa 3500-6700 RPM Power Band. Without a dead on tune this big sumbeech is gonna drive like **** it seems. A high 22x-mid 23x cam will be much better imo or better yet get you a custom cam spec'd out. Contact Pat G on here and he can set you up with something good for your goals. Bigger doesnt always mean better. You said your buddy made 457hp and 409tq right? Where did he make it at? If he made it at 6500rpms you need to ask yourself how often will you see that? If you want more useable power all the way across the power band then a smaller cam will do that. I'm not sayin bigger cams wont, but most dont.
I agree with Blue98Z 100%

I have a small baby cam "224R" and am making 446/416... given I'm on a 6.0 with milled heads. My cams powerband is more midrange rather than top end. And I absolutely love it... I'm RARELY up around 6500-7000rpm anyways. Peak numbers aren't always the best. It's a useable power curve that should be your target. A steady gain across the whole rpm range. And a table top for your torque!

Like Blue said, a cam somewhere in the 230's will probably work great for you. Don't get caught up in HUGE Durations... it can sometimes make your car less enjoyable to drive if it's not a straight drag car... Not saying that all cams with high durations drive like crap, there are certainly acceptions, but for what you seem to be after I wouldn't go with the Trex.... that's just my opinion...
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Originally Posted by blue98Z
The power your after can be had with a smaller cam. If peak #'s is what you want then go for the bigger cams. Have you even looked at the specs on the trex? 242/248 - .608/.612 - 110 lsa 3500-6700 RPM Power Band. Without a dead on tune this big sumbeech is gonna drive like **** it seems. A high 22x-mid 23x cam will be much better imo or better yet get you a custom cam spec'd out. Contact Pat G on here and he can set you up with something good for your goals. Bigger doesnt always mean better. You said your buddy made 457hp and 409tq right? Where did he make it at? If he made it at 6500rpms you need to ask yourself how often will you see that? If you want more useable power all the way across the power band then a smaller cam will do that. I'm not sayin bigger cams wont, but most dont.
i think it was at 5950 rpm when he did it. an i like the sound of the cam the 110 lobe. thats what i have in my 454 rite now an they sound bot the same an that what i want. ill try an find that guy pat g today an ask him about one. an the tune is a hptuner that he uses on the car an thats what i was goin to use also he has done all the hard work for me but ill get up with that pat guy an see what he would do also thanks
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From what I noticed 400 tq is a tough goal for stock ls1 heads. but that hp goal should be no prob.

G/luck.
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thanks for all ur help an inputs on the cam an hp/tq answers
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yes talk to Pat G about your cam, and good lord kid its AND!!!!! not an.
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look in the dyno section for a PAT-G thread to contact him.
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Originally Posted by 99345hp
yes talk to Pat G about your cam, and good lord kid its AND!!!!! not an.
sorry bot that am a big texter [B]and[B] i guess i dont look what am texting my bad
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Originally Posted by 69blackwhss
sorry bot that am a big texter [B]and[B] i guess i dont look what am texting my bad
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Sorry about that. I'm a big texter and I guess I don't look what I am texting. My bad.
and no problem
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Originally Posted by Soul TKR
I agree with Blue98Z 100%

I have a small baby cam "224R" and am making 446/416... given I'm on a 6.0 with milled heads. My cams powerband is more midrange rather than top end. And I absolutely love it... I'm RARELY up around 6500-7000rpm anyways. Peak numbers aren't always the best. It's a useable power curve that should be your target. A steady gain across the whole rpm range. And a table top for your torque!

Like Blue said, a cam somewhere in the 230's will probably work great for you. Don't get caught up in HUGE Durations... it can sometimes make your car less enjoyable to drive if it's not a straight drag car... Not saying that all cams with high durations drive like crap, there are certainly acceptions, but for what you seem to be after I wouldn't go with the Trex.... that's just my opinion...
^^^^this car will probably beat your buddies that made 467 or whatever.....and more streetable....plus like previously said you have to look at power across the board....average power across the board is a bigger impact than peak numbers
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457 with stock heads and 12 bolt...sounds like a happy dyno to me...

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well I emailed Pat G and his is going to help me out. thanks guys
The dyno numbers made us drop our jaws lol
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457 with stock heads and 12 bolt...sounds like a happy dyno to me...
^^^^agree....iv seen bolt on cars with monster cams hit like 420 but 457 is just unheard of....if thats the case tell him to buy a set of heads and set some type of ls1 record or something.....but yea always look past peak numbers.....a smaller cam with heads will make just as much up top and absolutely kill to donkey dick cam car on drivability, 1/4mile time and instant throttle response.
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^^^^agree....iv seen bolt on cars with monster cams hit like 420 but 457 is just unheard of....if thats the case tell him to buy a set of heads and set some type of ls1 record or something.....but yea always look past peak numbers.....a smaller cam with heads will make just as much up top and absolutely kill to donkey dick cam car on drivability, 1/4mile time and instant throttle response.
my buddy did have the fastest ls1 cam only in kentucky I belive. But ya I understand what all u guys are saying bout a smaller cam will be better i know i what a 110 lobe for the sound of a muscle car sound like my 454 does. hope pat g can get me goin in the rite way. thanks for all ur all's help angain jason.
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Originally Posted by 69blackwhss
my buddy did have the fastest ls1 cam only in kentucky I belive. But ya I understand what all u guys are saying bout a smaller cam will be better i know i what a 110 lobe for the sound of a muscle car sound like my 454 does. hope pat g can get me goin in the rite way. thanks for all ur all's help angain jason.
what did he run...does he have a screen name on here or on this list...just curious...

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...s-engines.html
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No 22x cam on stock heads 346 is gona do it. sorry. and its not gona be at 5700rpms. these claims are getting ra tart
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Originally Posted by chrs1313
what did he run...does he have a screen name on here or on this list...just curious...

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...s-engines.html
idk if he is still on here are not buddy sorry but ill ask him today an get back with ya

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