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Need a bigger cam so my friends will stop making fun of me. I have been looking at either a 224/224 or 224/228 cam. It's going in an A4 with stock heads. The car is a daily driver and needs to be able to make it from Tampa to Atlanta without maxing out my gas card. Also, wanted to know if I could get away without tuning the 224/224 cam? Advice anyone?

Chris81

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The 224/224 cams have really proven themselves as a great all-round cam for the street/strip in either A4 or M6, so I would say thats a safe bet.. on an A4 you will need some tuning to get the most out of it.

Nice car BTW.

jrp

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lol, go tell your friends to **** themselves

what are your goals, what other mods do you have, do you at a new stall at least. we need more info.

BlackWS602

You can go way bigger and still have good highway gas mileage. Get a TR224 on a 114 and you'll be fine on stock programming. Just don't pick something to shut someone up. Decide what you want to do with the car.

SSEUL8R

get a TR230 or a TR224, but dont forget to change the springs to something like 918's and go beat their ***, and enjoy every minute of it.

I SPEED

My goal for this car is to make it a low 12 sec. that I can drive from college to home with out any problems. I am hoping to pull about 390 to 400 at the tires. My other mods are as follows. Free ram air, air box, home made smooth air bellow, ported MAF, ported throttle body, LS6, Hooker long tubes w/ offroad ypipe, GMMG exhaust, underdrive pullies, 160 thst. TCI 3000 stall, 3.73, B&M shift kit, thats it I think. I will probally buy AFR heads next year or stroke it to a 383 as a graduation present to myself.

Nine Ball

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3000 stall is kinda low for a cammed setup. Go with at least a 3500 stall. With some drag radials and that list of mods you plan on doing, your A4 will see some 11s.

224/224 cams are great, like the TR224 or the MTI C2 cam.

Tony

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My car already has everything done to it listed above but the stall & the headers which I am putting in at the moment. The car is running 12.7 in the 1/4 in 87 degree Flordia humidity, on street tires with the stock headers/cats & shitty factory suspension.

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How would the 3500 stall make the car drive in traffic?

foff667

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I have a TCi 3500 stall converter with 2.73's that i drive about 7000miles a year and i love it...i wouldve gone with a 3800-4000 stall vert if i were to do it again. You shouldnt need that much hp to get into the low 12's with a vert i know jersey TA ran a 12.1 obviously in cooler air but with no stall and only bolt ons.

lata
Bill

JMBLOWNWS6

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This is what my little 224 on a 114 did

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I put 30,000 miles a year on my car. Would a 3500 stall still be O.K. for every day driving? By the way how do you like your pacesetter headers?

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I have been told that the 224/224 cam only gains 4-7 h.p. from tuning.

BlackWS602

I daily drive a 4600. I put 250 miles on the car a week. With a 3500 stall it will drive just fine and you wouldn't even tell a difference after about a week.

jrp

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your forgetting the main point of tuning isnt to get more hp, its to tune your car so that its more driveable and setup for the new cam; idle set, a/f ratio, timing, rev limiters, shift points, ect.

the added hp is just a byproduct and bonus

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Yea I know, but it helps me justify the cost of tuning it. I know several people who threw the cam in and left it untunned and they say that its running fine. They just drilled a bigger hole in the throttle body.
Oh, and by the way I like a large B to a medium C cup.

Got Me SOM

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it doesn't make any sense at all to put performance parts on your car if ya ain't gonna tune it.

Back me up on this fellas.

I have a 3800 stall and its plenty streetable and locks up just fine on the highway. I could probably get away with a 4000 stall and have the same driveability as stock.

3000 stall is way too small imo.

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I am going to tune the car just not right away. I am going to have to drive it for a month or so untill I can afford to tune it. What part of flordia are you in Got Me SOM I have never been in a car with a converter before this is my first automatic. I would really like to be able to know what one is like before I put one in.

jrp

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keep in mind every car reacts different to mods. so you might need a tune sooner then you think or not for a year. you wont know until its installed and running.

and i like a small B

BlackWS602

I like double D's