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Old 06-30-2010, 07:42 AM
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Default Heads/Cam, what kind of power through an A4?

Just curious of what kind of power I should expect to see. Being in Jersey ill need to stay sniffer friendly. Been looking at TSP's 224 Cam and possibly there ported LS6 heads (willing to take other reconmendations).
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track numbers are much more telling than dyno numbers on an A4.
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The track is the true dyno. Auto's with high stall's don't dyno well - period. Don't believe all the hype you read here and on the internet. Dyno's # are played like a good fender strat.

See my sig...And these are very NOVICE times with bad shift parameters.
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Values in my sig for 2009 are h/c stock bottom LS1 on a A4 with a 3200 stall
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you need - over lap to pass emissions,I would contact Pat-G for a cam.a custom cam cost only $25 more and you get what you need.
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Originally Posted by garygnu
you need - over lap to pass emissions,I would contact Pat-G for a cam.a custom cam cost only $25 more and you get what you need.
Not a big drag racer here though I might in the future after a 12 bolt, and some suspension. I was just curious. Pat-G? Does he have a website or email...Like all im looking for the most power and still pass the sniffer.
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Dyno numbers? hmm... you don't lose THAT much through A4
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Check my sig. My TSP is 224/224 .566/.566 115 .
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Originally Posted by GTO1_OHIO
Values in my sig for 2009 are h/c stock bottom LS1 on a A4 with a 3200 stall
nice HP, what heads are you running?
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Originally Posted by projectX
Dyno numbers? hmm... you don't lose THAT much through A4
Ah yes you do, my set up on NA my tuner has seen run 440ish and with the 150 shot closer to 600 through an M6.
You loose 30% through drive train parasitism on an A4 than the 15 to 20% at the most through an M6

Yet OP don't worry too much about numbers too much if I where you. I guarantee even if you had matching rwhp numbers you will out perform an M6 on the track 9 out of 10 times. Once in a while you'll get a guy who can really bang gears but the A4 will almost always win out. Take it to the track and come back and let us know how u did. You will be pleasantly surprised.
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Originally Posted by 02*C5
Ah yes you do, my set up on NA my tuner has seen run 440ish and with the 150 shot closer to 600 through an M6.
You loose 30% through drive train parasitism on an A4 than the 15 to 20% at the most through an M6

Yet OP don't worry too much about numbers too much if I where you. I guarantee even if you had matching rwhp numbers you will out perform an M6 on the track 9 out of 10 times. Once in a while you'll get a guy who can really bang gears but the A4 will almost always win out. Take it to the track and come back and let us know how u did. You will be pleasantly surprised.
30% for an auto and 20% for manual is much higher than the generally accepted 18-20 for an auto and 13-15% for manual.

I agree that auto's will outperform M6's with more HP, but that's only if the auto has a good stall converter.
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Originally Posted by SAPS
30% for an auto and 20% for manual is much higher than the generally accepted 18-20 for an auto and 13-15% for manual.

I agree that auto's will outperform M6's with more HP, but that's only if the auto has a good stall converter.
I agree w/ the 15%/20% that's why i said 20% at most that's taking into account that the clutch is not brand new which most people sometimes do not have and the up to 30% also depending on stall i should have been more specific. here is a good thread by yank.

http://www.converter.cc/tech_talk/
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I made the numbers in my sig on a load-bearing dyno and big wheels, cam is 228/232 and CNC'd 243 patriot heads. Tuner said it would easily be over 400 if I had smaller wheels. I have since added a ported fast 92 and a stall and waiting to get back to see the new numbers. But from what I have read, 390 on a load bearing is similar to 420-430ish on a dynojet.
But like already mentioned, autos will dyno lower, esp. with a stall, but track times are more accurate as far as how fast it actually is.
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do a search for his handle and many threads will pop up ,read one click on his avatar.
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Agreed man go for the track times. I went 10.90@123mph all motor with a H/C/I stalled A4 full weight Camaro. My dyno #'s are 447rwhp and 403rwtrq
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Originally Posted by projectX
Dyno numbers? hmm... you don't lose THAT much through A4
Yes, you do.


I was making 370Rwhp (226/228 .588 114 ported/milled 317s 4000 converter 373s full bolt ons).. Knocking on 10s back door. 3450# race weight in 2000+DA.
I am now making right at 400Rwhp.. Should be in the 10s, same race weight.

Rwhp #s mean nothing.. It is all how the setup is matched. A correctly built setup will run much better in a setup with parts just to make a high Rwhp number.
Pay attention to parts that compliment each other, not parts that make Rwhp.



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