robiferretti

has anyone else experienced drastic oil consumption with PP heads? the only variables i changed on my motor were the heads and cam and i had not experienced chewing oil like this in 30,000 miles. Now with in 1000 miles i went through 2 quarts


IN my other thread people have mentioned that there was a problem with the PP heads and oil, what was the remedy, I am about to tear down the motor and remove these heads

blk~2000~Z28

Just curious but how many times after the install was the car taken to redline? If you were having tuning done and running alot of RPM's this may have compounded a small oil consumption problem and made it seem worse. I am not trying to suggest the heads aren't the problem, b/c 2 quarts in that short of miles would burn my *** as well.

gomer

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I've had 6 sets of patriot heads on my car and have ran them for a total of 28,000 miles and my car doesn't use oil now and never did with any set I had. I run mobile one 5w-30 with a M1 filter and change it every 3,000 miles. I've never added oil to my car. Have you done a leakdown test on your car?

Classic

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A friend of mine had oil consumption problems with his 5.3 heads.

JNorris

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Mine smokes like a freight train at WOT only above 5800 rpm. I can make 6-8 ¼ mile runs and be down a ¼ -1/2 qt of oil.
In normal everyday driving there is no oil consumption.
If the car is running rich at WOT the oil consumption seems to be worst.


John

v8maro

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I had none before the swap, and now, i still have none.

foff667

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are you running PP heads? He was asking because hes having some oil consumption issues with his patriot heads and wanted to know if anyone else was having issues with theirs...i knew there were some issues a few months back and i know terry fired a few people because of it...im sure he'll chime in sooner or later

gomer

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John is running TEA's last time I heard. Maybe the title needs to be changed to "patriot performance" instead of PP, someone might mistake that for "port and polished"

Got Me SOM

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I'm just throwing this out there, maybe bad valve stem seals?

Tally TransAm

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mine had a small puff of smoke at start up before the heads

small puff of smoke at start up after the heads

use about 1 quart every 3k before and after the heads

Mike K.

Like gomer said if its real bad then a leakdown might be worth doing. Shot rings?

gomer

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Something else that I was wondering... Did he drive the car very much before having it tuned on a wideband? If he leaned it out at WOT alot, or even had some detonation at part throttle before he tuned it.. he might have hurt a piston or something.

You know a little about that don't you Mike?? LOL! Even a "pretty close" tune is dangerous on a 11.5 to 1 engine.

Mike K.

Yeah I burned 2 quarts of oil in 2 miles so mine was a tad worse.
Im really worried about tuning now and never realized how detrimental it could be to an engine until I saw mine after detonation. I think mine was more from detonation at part throttle and maybe a little at WOT but either way it does not take long to toast a motor if it is detonating.

robiferretti

yeah i am refering to Patriot performance heads

TVWilkes

I use all aftermarket seals and parts.You could have a bad seal.I will send you some more.PM or email me your address.Thanks,

JNorris

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You are correct. I did mistaken PP or "port and polished"

John

CamaroCain

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TaTommyWS6

What cam did you switch to? Maybe that has something to do with it. I burn lot o' oil at WOT after my cam swap. (I used new valve seals, etc...) Absolutely no smoke during normal driving, quite a bit at WOT.

Tommy

1fastWS6

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I just finished replacing all the valve seals on my new PP LS6 heads because I was burning 1/2 quart in 150 miles. It was smoking bad. Found a couple cracked valve seals that weren't installed correctly. I replaced them with Viton seals instead of the teflon one's that PP uses. What a major PITA job that was!!!

You need to pull all the plugs and see what cylinders are sucking the most oil. If it is just a couple of the seals, you'll have a black oily spot on the plugs, or the plug will be very black compared to the rest. Replace the valve seals on those cylinders. Teflon seals are brittle and prone to cracking if not installed with care.

ne14a6t9

Make sure you check the guide clearance to when you have the seals off, here is a link to a guy who siad there is alot of play with the bronze guides, scroll down to hannbal and steviez's post
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...6&page=2&pp=20