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Engine builder says, no way I will make 360 rwhp with a Z06 cam and boltons!

Old 01-29-2004, 11:23 PM
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Default Engine builder says, no way I will make 360 rwhp with a Z06 cam and boltons!

I will have the below modifications:
K&N FIPK (have now)
Magnaflow exhaust (have now)
Z06 cam/comp cam 918 springs
ASP crank pulley
Thunder Racing TB
Predator programmer

How can I NOT make 360 rwhp? It is making me doubt this guys credibility. I thought the cam alone adds 25 rwhp.....and I am at 330 rwhp now.
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My first response to this was.. You'd need headers. However, after re-evaluating the fact that you have 330rwhp with only a magnaflow and a k&n. I'm in shock. That is downright factory freakish through an a4. I guess it is possible??? However, under normal circumstance I'd think headers would be needed as well.

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You will probly need headers man

I think you will be around 340 without them
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Those are incredible numbers for a A4. I would shoot for 350 and hope for 360. I don't think it will be a big problem hitting 350.
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Can regular shorty headers work, like from Edelbrock? I can not do long tubes because I live in Cali. I decided to go with the Z06 cam because it makes power without headers. Any help would be great. I have 3 weeks till I drop the girl off at the shop.
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Since when can't you run long tubes in cali? Oh yeah, I guess if you wanted to pass smog the old-fashioned way...

And the stock manifolds on an '02 flow about as well as shorties.
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What about mac mids?
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I think that most of the z06's only dyno around 350rwhp, and that's thought the m6.....
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Originally Posted by HC02SS
What about mac mids?
Same difference in California, any relocation of the cats is illegal.
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Firstly I can't believe you made 330rwhp through an A4 with mods you have. I think 360 will be tough, but not impossible given your already freakish numbers.

Lets not forget though, these are dyno numbers. Have you had your current combo to the track? I would be more concerned with the before and after track numbers than dyno numbers. Thats just me though.

Good Luck !
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The numbers are high for an A4 but there are freaks out there.
I dyno'd 334rwhp and 343rwtrq which everyone told me was too high for my mods I still have an LS1 intake and only about half the bolt-ons possible, and the car probably should have dyno'd higher. I hadn't floored the car in about a week before the dyno, first pull was very low 316rwhp with a nice big black cloud of carbon. Second pull 325rwhp, and third 334rwhp. I honestly think with a 4th pull I would have hit in the 340+ range since I went up almost 20rwhp and 20rwtrq in 2 pulls. For the car's weight of about 3550lbs with me in it, to trap 114.72mph, most hp calculators say that takes 360rwhp. That is SAE corrected and the time was run in cold high pressure weather so that skews the reading required for rwhp. So SAE corrected in the 340-345rwhp range sounds about right considering the weather conditions on that run.
Some cars are just freaks.
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I think that the GT2-3 cam will make more power and it will still pass smog. What if you got FLP long tubes. You can bolt in the cats and be good to go for inspection. RIGHT???
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Originally Posted by MicahJam
Same difference in California, any relocation of the cats is illegal.
Actually, anywhere in the United States, relocation of a factory installed emissions component is illegal....Hasn't stopped a lot of us, though

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I made 343 without headers,ls6 intake and tuning.
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330 sounds high for an A4, but not impossible. A few people told me my car was freakish when I put down 331/338 with a direct-flow lid and loudmouth. This was with the factory paper air filter and LS1 intake. I have an M6 though.
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It's definitely possible, Eric Ireland out here in Long Beach made 350rwhp with just a LS6 cam, lid, and catback I believe. I think it's easily possible if you get a y-pipe/cutout, larger MAF/MAF ends, and some real tuning via LS1 edit. I'm hoping to hit ~365rwhp with bolt-ons, LS6 cam and stock 02 manifolds/cats in my M6 pretty soon.
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IIMO it is very possible. You could scavenge a few HP's with BBK 13/4 shorties. They are worth a least 10 rwhp over stock manifolds. As for the cam it can definately deliver that.
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I had an LS6 cam AND heads, Jethot longtubes/ORY pipe, and LS6 intake and I made 370 rwhp/365 rwtq. That was through the stock WS6 catback (no cutout).

I would say with LS1 heads and no headers - around 350rwhp.
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Originally Posted by ZtwentyATE
I am at 330 rwhp now.
oh geez hes been watching too many hypertech ads on tv er something
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Originally Posted by foff667
oh geez hes been watching too many hypertech ads on tv er something
agreed, i'd have to see the dyno. m6 i could believe but thats a stretch a4. and like another guy stated, who said you cant have LT's in cali. if you dont mind swaping parts you can go that route, or find a shop that'll "overlook" them.

if you still want to stay with shorties or stock manifolds i'd look into a 212/218 or 216/220, both will work on shorties/manifolds and should net you more power then the ls6 cam. the ls6 cam will only give you more top end, the other cams will at least give you power under the curve everywhere.

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