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Old 07-01-2011, 02:13 PM
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Default EPS 222/226 LSA 115+3 lift .597/605 numbers?

First of all I was sold on going with a 224 cam from a vendor on here for a killer price...this is for my daily driver here in CA.

After research and talking to others I somehow found myself looking at options through Geoff at EPS. I've read about their lobe technology, granted I didn't understand everything as I was reading.

Geoff is an awesome guy that is very thorough...He is not the cheapest but he broke everything down for me and educated me on a few things. I took about an 1hour and a half on the phone with him over a couple of days. I felt good about the decision after talking to him.

The main reason I was going with the 224 / 114 LSA cam initially because it seemed like a good overall cam, and it probably is. I just wanted to maximize the power/efficiency with my close to stock car. I feel good with my decision though.

I have an 02 WS6 with the only power performance mods being a lid and a GMMG catback. It is a 6speed car.

How much power do you think I will make???
Anyone else have a similar cam and what were your thoughts/impressions after?

Once the install/dyno tune is complete I will post the vid/graphs up.
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Originally Posted by jthunderz28
First of all I was sold on going with a 224 cam from a vendor on here for a killer price...this is for my daily driver here in CA.

After research and talking to others I somehow found myself looking at options through Geoff at EPS. I've read about their lobe technology, granted I didn't understand everything as I was reading.

Geoff is an awesome guy that is very thorough...He is not the cheapest but he broke everything down for me and educated me on a few things. I took about an 1hour and a half on the phone with him over a couple of days. I felt good about the decision after talking to him.

The main reason I was going with the 224 / 114 LSA cam initially because it seemed like a good overall cam, and it probably is. I just wanted to maximize the power/efficiency with my close to stock car. I feel good with my decision though.

I have an 02 WS6 with the only power performance mods being a lid and a GMMG catback. It is a 6speed car.

How much power do you think I will make???
Anyone else have a similar cam and what were your thoughts/impressions after?

Once the install/dyno tune is complete I will post the vid/graphs up.
with what heads? EPS cams seem to respond well to stock or mildly ported 243 casting heads. If I were you, I would bump to Geoff's next biggest cam, the 226/234 113+2LSA... it's probably his most popular cam and seems to make great power. I would estimate your 222/226 with stock heads may make 390-400rwhp. Whereas the 226/234 + 243 heads seems to be making around 420rwhp. Hope this helps!
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with what heads? EPS cams seem to respond well to stock or mildly ported 243 casting heads. If I were you, I would bump to Geoff's next biggest cam, the 226/234 113+2LSA... it's probably his most popular cam and seems to make great power. I would estimate your 222/226 with stock heads may make 390-400rwhp. Whereas the 226/234 + 243 heads seems to be making around 420rwhp. Hope this helps!
Stock heads and manifolds as stated.

Wow I never saw that coming.390rwhp with stock heads and manifolds????I would be sooooo happy if I could hit that mark with this cam. Hecc if I could get 370 rwhp with stock heads and manifolds I will be happy.

I know a lot of it depends on the tune as well. I most likely will take it to Mark Romans who is well known in GM High Tech as one of the top tuners in northern california.
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Originally Posted by jthunderz28
Stock heads and manifolds as stated.

Wow I never saw that coming.390rwhp with stock heads and manifolds????I would be sooooo happy if I could hit that mark with this cam. Hecc if I could get 370 rwhp with stock heads and manifolds I will be happy.

I know a lot of it depends on the tune as well. I most likely will take it to Mark Romans who is well known in GM High Tech as one of the top tuners in northern california.
sorry i didn't see the part about stock exhaust manifolds and exhaust... probably a bad assumption that you had headers with your exhaust! you are right probably closer to the 360-370whp number with the stock headers and heads.
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I would go with TR's V.3 cheater cam for no other reason than you are keeping the stock manifolds.

I love EPS cams and I am seriously considering a custom grind from Geoff when I build my LS2/LQ4 upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
I would go with TR's V.3 cheater cam for no other reason than you are keeping the stock manifolds.

I love EPS cams and I am seriously considering a custom grind from Geoff when I build my LS2/LQ4 upgrade.
Just got your pm, I was a little confused as to why I would go with the Cheater Cam if you're going with the EPS cam? lol

Remember some of the EPS cams are designed for stock manifolds.

Good luck with your build as well.
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I like the EPS 222/226 cam with a set of mildly ported 243's. I found a few porters
that are getting 290+ cfm from a stock runner 243 with all the work done in the bowl,
short turn and chamber. And he removes the flash from the runners, but no porting.
Nice combo.
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Step up to the 226/230 on a 114. Great power under the curve and very streetable.
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Originally Posted by *02WS6TURK*
Step up to the 226/230 on a 114. Great power under the curve and very streetable.
for the op though, it wont pass smog. 226+230=456/2=228-114=114-114=0 it needs to be -4 to pass smog
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for the op though, it wont pass smog. 226+230=456/2=228-114=114-114=0 it needs to be -4 to pass smog
Ahh got ya. The 222/226 will still have great power under the curve and net some good numbers. AI 243 heads will compliment the set up as well. I'm saving up for some to add to my set up
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lucky oregon guy with better emmisions lol
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Thanks for all the input/advice by all.

Now that I am so deep in this $$$ wise. I am considering just throwing in some 243's as well.

I have searched the parts classified section on tech, I have looked at SDPC's website.

Who sells 243 heads ported and unported for the best value outside of random deals popping up in the classifieds????
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lucky oregon guy with better emmisions lol
Oh yeah so lucky...I only get to drive it a few months out of the year because of the weather lol. I guess I could drive it more, but I hate driving in the rain. I like my car to look as good as it performs
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good point lol i love being able to drive my car 365 days out of the year . . . course after the new paint job it finally gets it wont be seeing that much road
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I like only being able to drive it 4-6 months out of the year. I would get tired driving it all the time. I appreciate the car and enjoy it more that way.
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^6 years and 130k later i'm never tired of driving it lol

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OP try a ls vette site for used 243s.you can use 799 heads also,or milled 317 heads.TSP has ported heads .
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I have the same cam ..

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...p-410rwtq.html

Last result 435 rwhp / 411 rwtq .. I will do PRC-215 milled to 59cc in the near future
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Originally Posted by garygnu
OP try a ls vette site for used 243s.you can use 799 heads also,or milled 317 heads.TSP has ported heads .
Not too much going on in the vette forums but I did find a promising deal in another LSX forum. Thanks for the heads up.

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I have the same cam ..

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...p-410rwtq.html

Last result 435 rwhp / 411 rwtq .. I will do PRC-215 milled to 59cc in the near future
Those are some stout numbers. Nice job on that set up! Hopefully I can get close to 400 rwhp if I decide to pull the trigger on these 243 heads.

I will post results up for sure as soon as everything is done. I am hoping by the end of August.
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I made from 440 to 488<< third gear but the dyno tune was botched. I'll retune it by myself and do a dyno run again.


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