TR224 112 lca vs. 114 lca = what issues?
#1
TR224 112 lca vs. 114 lca = what issues?
I read as much as I could about this and similar cams and bought the: TR224/112lca w/ CC918
2000 Formula
stock motor/heads
Jethots w/orp
Magnaflow cat back
4000/2.5 str Midwest
3.73 gear
BMR stuff
Nitto's
What is the 112 lobe seperation going to do beside narrow the power band slightly and possibly lower the peak rpm? It's not like I went to a 108 lca
What tuning problems have been encountered?
Any success stories? What can I expect?
2000 Formula
stock motor/heads
Jethots w/orp
Magnaflow cat back
4000/2.5 str Midwest
3.73 gear
BMR stuff
Nitto's
What is the 112 lobe seperation going to do beside narrow the power band slightly and possibly lower the peak rpm? It's not like I went to a 108 lca
What tuning problems have been encountered?
Any success stories? What can I expect?
#2
I think if your in a state where emissions is not a big deal the 112 is a great way to go with this cam..
I'm in a crazy @ss emissions state so the 114 lsa is the way I'll go..I'm ordering from MattTTP and also having them install this mod in a week or two..here in Saddlebrook NJ.
(personally i'd prefer the crane dual spring setup for a few dollars more just for peace of mind) Double roller timing chain and for cars older than 2001 I'd put in an ls6 oil pump while your in there.)
That said..if emissions is not a concern..there is a slightly better powerband with 112 ...
I did a lot of research and the 224/224 cam is great everyday driver cam with a very impressive satisfaction rating from owners..
I anticipate running about or around 390 to 400rwhp with this cam install..
Good luck and let us know what your impressions are when your done.
I've yet to read a review that wasn't positive.
I'm in a crazy @ss emissions state so the 114 lsa is the way I'll go..I'm ordering from MattTTP and also having them install this mod in a week or two..here in Saddlebrook NJ.
(personally i'd prefer the crane dual spring setup for a few dollars more just for peace of mind) Double roller timing chain and for cars older than 2001 I'd put in an ls6 oil pump while your in there.)
That said..if emissions is not a concern..there is a slightly better powerband with 112 ...
I did a lot of research and the 224/224 cam is great everyday driver cam with a very impressive satisfaction rating from owners..
I anticipate running about or around 390 to 400rwhp with this cam install..
Good luck and let us know what your impressions are when your done.
I've yet to read a review that wasn't positive.
Last edited by JBsC5; 02-12-2004 at 06:41 AM.
#7
I've got the 224/224 114LSA. It's a great cam for daily driving. I spray a 150 shot on top of it also, responds pretty well. Sooner or later, though, I'm taking it back out for something more aggressive when I do the heads. If I take it easy, I get around 24-25mpg Highway, around 19-20 mixture of highway/city with an M6.
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#10
I'm assuming most aftermarket valve springs have a in use life of seven million cycles..where stock valve springs have a life of about 28 million..(one of the techs were telling me this) so if the average life is 100,000 miles..a good aftermarket spring setup such as the crane duals with a 224/224 .563 or .581 114lsa should be good for around 20K miles.? (worst case scenerio its a dual so your covered.)
This cam should be emissions friendly...it should be daily driver capable..and it should be reliable..
I believe with the ls6 heads and manifold I hope to put down 390rwhp to 400rwhp~ 380lb/ft of torque and have it installed by TTP in the next two weeks..
I'm looking for a nice bottom end and a streetable setup. I think this is the cam and with the 114 lsa I should according all the posts I've read..from guys out in California be able to pass NJ emissions without a problem.
I just passed at a private station with long tube headers and the DMV inspector was on site at the moment my car was on the rack.
With a 224/224 114 lsa cam I expect the next time around the car will pass as well. I just read a thread where the guy posted his emissions results with this cam and he nailed it ..no sweat..with flying colors..
I want an emissions friendly cam and this 224/224 114 lsa seems to be the one..
If I didn't care about emissions..and I almost said yes..I'd do the TTP equilizer cam throwing down 432rwhp in an ls6 motor car with stock heads..
Its basically the same money to have them install either..and both cars run great..but I have to go with the cam that will give me less hassles but good power.
Thats whats clueing me into the 224/224 114lsa cam.
I figure by the time I get the itch for more HP..maybe the fastx and 90 mm throttle body can be added later relatively inexpensively for 20 more ponies..if that whole thing pans out..
Being emissions friendly for a lot of guys makes a lot of sense.
Just makes life easier in the long run.
This cam should be emissions friendly...it should be daily driver capable..and it should be reliable..
I believe with the ls6 heads and manifold I hope to put down 390rwhp to 400rwhp~ 380lb/ft of torque and have it installed by TTP in the next two weeks..
I'm looking for a nice bottom end and a streetable setup. I think this is the cam and with the 114 lsa I should according all the posts I've read..from guys out in California be able to pass NJ emissions without a problem.
I just passed at a private station with long tube headers and the DMV inspector was on site at the moment my car was on the rack.
With a 224/224 114 lsa cam I expect the next time around the car will pass as well. I just read a thread where the guy posted his emissions results with this cam and he nailed it ..no sweat..with flying colors..
I want an emissions friendly cam and this 224/224 114 lsa seems to be the one..
If I didn't care about emissions..and I almost said yes..I'd do the TTP equilizer cam throwing down 432rwhp in an ls6 motor car with stock heads..
Its basically the same money to have them install either..and both cars run great..but I have to go with the cam that will give me less hassles but good power.
Thats whats clueing me into the 224/224 114lsa cam.
I figure by the time I get the itch for more HP..maybe the fastx and 90 mm throttle body can be added later relatively inexpensively for 20 more ponies..if that whole thing pans out..
Being emissions friendly for a lot of guys makes a lot of sense.
Just makes life easier in the long run.
#11
Originally Posted by DD966
I live in CT also. Don't buy the 112 LSA, you won't pass emissions.
Actually my cars get a plug into the pcm and a visual for cats. If the pcm reads clean and it looks like I have cats they pass me. If the pcm throws a code they put a sniffer up my pipe
Does the quicker exhaust event timing from the tighter lca cause unburnt fuel to exit the exhaust causing emmisions to be higher than a wider (114 lca) cam?
I'm having a hard time believing that the 2 degree tighter angle makes that much difference. I wish I had the exact timing events to plot the intake/exhaust overlap and compare the 112 to the 114.
On the other hand - if someone running the 112 failed smog and had the car tuned well, I'll be a believer!!
From the rest of the posts I'm getting that this is a decent cam, a bit more aggressive than it's 114 lca brother.
#12
With the tons of posts from Ls1 and ls6 owners who have modded and posted...I'd really feel as if I were riding the edge with the 112 and hoping the cam would pass..
I'll go with the 114 and have a better shot of passing emissions..
Too close to call with the 112..
JMO
I'll go with the 114 and have a better shot of passing emissions..
Too close to call with the 112..
JMO