verbs

I'm trying to figure out how much less clearance there'd be switching from a TR230 cam to any of the G5X cams.....anyone know? Please list which G5X cam you have, and what LSA it's on. Thanks!

Damian

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It's gonna be a BIG decrease in clearance dude. I can't exactly answer your question, but going from a 230/224 to a 232/240 is going to GREATLY reduce clearance. The smartest thing to do would be pull the pass. side head, being the easier one, and measure your PV the right way. Better safe than sorry.....

verbs

I agree, I'm just trying to get an approximation in the mean time.....

2001CamaroGuy

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needs more room than you have

verbs

not necessarily....it seems I should be able to fit a G5X2 cam in the car, and possibly a G5X3 if we play with the ICL a little bit....it's gonna take some customization.

Damian

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Carefull playing with ICL's. Remember that doing that will most certainly increase PV, but will take your low-mid range power and move it up. I'd hate to see how high a G5X3 would need to be spun if backed up a couple more degrees, probably 72-7300

verbs

My TR230 has no low-mid range power to begin with. Quite honestly this cam sucks for anything but top end. The G5X3 should still be a low-mid range improvement, and idle better to boot.

7200 rpms? Bah! What's another 200rpms considering I already spin her to 7000rpms as is . I'm anticipating this cam peaking at around 6600rpms or so.

Damian

iTrader: (89)

The G5X3 idle better????!?!?! ......Sorry man, MAJOR disagreement there. Being that the G5X3 is bigger than the X2 (which it is), it's going to idle the same or a tad worse, especially without fine tuning. I wouldn't expect ANY improvements in the driveability area. Not knockin LG, but I know what i've seen with my own 2 eyes....

You spin that ****** to 7200 for to long you're gonna have a rod come through the fire wall and smack you in the nutz


josh

2001CamaroGuy

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I would pay to see that

SnakeKiller

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I wouldn't think there would be much difference, sure the X3 is slightly bigger but isn't it on a 114? I would think the X2 on a 112 would acually idle slightly worse.

verbs

The G5X3 on a 114LSA will idle better than my cam, which is on a 110.8 LSA. My buddy has that cam; his G5X-3 114LSA idles better than his old G5X-2 112LSA which IMO idled than my car.

GrannySShifting

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The 230/224 should not be hard at all to get it to idle in a M6. Have it idling at 850-900 in an A4 that drives great

KGSloan

i'd be real supprised if you picked up very much down low, if any. in fact, the tr230 has great low end power. this cam has a GREAT torque curve for a bigger cam. i've got 300rwtq at 2500rpms, not bad for stockheads, but i'm sure you know all about the cam as you own one so i don't really need to tell you. i just think, if you're looking to pick up in the low/midrange, you're headed in the wrong direction.

sorry, i guess i don't really have anything to add to your question about PtV clearance, just had to throw that out there.

just my $.02. good luck to you

SSean

I have the TR230 cam also. I'm making over 300rwtq from 2,000 rpm on stock heads. I drive my car everyday, highway, around town, in traffic. I have stock 3.42 gears and dont have any problems. Pulls hard in the mid-range rpm band and really rips on top end. I thought about the G5X2 cam but wasnt crazy about the high lift numbers and trying to find springs that would hold up to daily driving (my daily driving at that ) abuse

verbs

My car made 310rwtq@2500rpms with just bolt ons.

My car makes no more power w/ heads and cam than it did with bolt ons until about 4500rpms.

algws6

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verbs, i have the X2 and 5.3 TEA II heads. i have one of the earlier sets of TEAs and made 428 rwhp and 390 ftlbs of torque. this was through a 12 bolt with 4.30s and 18x10 V1s on 315 tires. my car is very streetable and pulls hard. it ran an 11.8 on a bad 1.8 60' at 4200 ft. above sea level.

KGSloan

you may not have picked up in the low/midrange range from stock, most big cams lose power down low (ie. 1500-2500rpsm). you also switched from a truck cam that is designed to make low/midrange power to one for top end. i think it's doing pretty good considering this, and better than most big cams.

having said that, going to a g5x2/3 is going to cause you to lose low end compared to your tr230 (below 2500rpms). those cams are not going to increase driveability and torque around town at 1500rpms. they have a lot more overlap and won't run as good down there. don't take this the wrong way, i'm just trying to help you out. if you still want the g5x cams for the added power from 3000 rpms up, go for it. hell, i'm considering this swap as well. however, if i was looking for better driveability and torque down low, i wouldn't consider these cams. they are great cams and i'm sure you will gain horsepower up top, just don't expect it to idle and drive easier around town

SilverGhost

iTrader: (53)

I may be recalling incorrectly but wasn't there a post not long ago from someone who just went to the X3 about how it seems to make power up top, loss of mid range and low compared to the X2 he had previously?

KGSloan

here's the thread:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/135758-switched-g5x2-112-g5x3-114-first-thoughts.html

verbs

that's a good buddy of mine.....I was in his car with the G5X-2.