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Old 02-25-2004, 10:18 AM
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Question What is the most popular H/C?

I want h/c for daily driver and common used on LS1, doesn’t consume fuel a lot, easy install and not expensive. If I install h/c in Camaro SS 2002 stock 100%, which other mods should I install it with h/c. How many hp h/c will I gain (only h/c added on stock engine)?
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Patriot heads are making big splash. As far as heads/cam alone, I would not do it without going with all the bolt ons; long tube headers, cut out or catbacks, ASP Pulley, LS6 Intake (if before year 2000) and tuning.

Add a ported TB to the mix and then the H/C combo really kicks ***. It's one of those mods you must include with other mods to be effective.

I love my set up.
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Perform some research and use the search feature please.

There is a TON of Heads/cam info in this forum...

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Perform some research and use the search feature please.

There is a TON of Heads/cam info in this forum...

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can you help me with search. i want it for street racing
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For street use, I would say the TR224 and some PP 5.3s are a good combination. The Thunder Racing cam is a proven performer. This cam is very driveable even without tuning. The cost is not that high either if you do all the work yourself.

As stated above though, a full bolt on car is almost a must before doing the head and cam swap. You will see the most gains this way. Start with a lid, catback of your choice, headers, and a y-pipe.
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Contact Texas Speed. They sell great H/C set ups. I will have numbers from my PP S2 5.3 and TSP 231/231 friday.
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stage 2 heads and 224/224 cam seem to be the most popular setup.
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Go bigger than a 224. Do you have to worry about emissions?
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If you want a good power combo, go with Absolute Speed Heads. A good street cam is the th230 cam. The power and relaiabilty of the AS heads is proven. Look at the other posts about the patriot heads and oil consumtion and low power.
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AS heads with the TR230 would be an incredible setup. Good value nad excellent performance for your dollar. I think this setup would by far be the greatest value.
AS another said earlier, do all of your bolt-ons first. This is a cool $2k (depending on how you do it) and this will help you HC setup work properly. The ported TB, good exhaust setup, pulleys, intake, etc... will make the car run properly. Nto to mention you will require tuning to get the most out of any HC setup, and you don't wnat to have to keep going back for every little Bolt-on mod you make.
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So some guys said Go to MTI stag 2 head and other said AS heads which one is better for daily driver and street racing and not consume allot of fuel with no problems
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Originally Posted by LS1SS4ever
So some guys said Go to MTI stag 2 head and other said AS heads which one is better for daily driver and street racing and not consume allot of fuel with no problems
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theres no "better" its all personal preference and how deep your wallet is...if your buying heads and cam & still want good gas mileage you might as well not buy it and get yourself a HPP & a lid and call it a day...once you get in deep theres no turning back...you can make it a daily driver and have it very driveable but the old saying comes into play "speed costs money how fast do you want to go" breakage and bad gas mileage come with the territory if your in the middle ground your gonna loose alot of races one way or the other.
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Look at the other posts about the patriot heads and oil consumtion and low power.
Why bash? Can't there be an answer to the orginal question without bashing? The answer is yes but most people can't.
Look at other posts about "Insert Performance shop here" and their insane pricing along with a core charge.

You get what you pay for in almost every expect of life so do not expect any cheap head to topel the performance of higher end heads IMO.
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Originally Posted by chino_man279
I would say the TR224 and some PP 5.3s are a good combination. The Thunder Racing cam is a proven performer.
Bingo.

This is the most popular combination. I wouldn't say it is the best, you have to determine what is best for you.

Most of the sponsors have some nice head and cam combo's. Call them and discuss what you want and they'll steer you straight and set you up.

My favorite combo is the TR220 (I don't know why) and the TEA 5.3 stage 1.5 heads. I'm desperately trying to resist buying those heads.
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Contact Sean at MMT he will hook you up with some serious power! If I only had the money
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TR224/224 and a set of stage 2 5.3Liter heads
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I'm pretty happy with my new A.R.E. Setup and they had my car in and out of the shop in under 3 days
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It doesn't sound like you want a h/c.

Maybe this https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-oxide-10/ is what you're looking for?
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IMO I would go with a 224 TR Cam and a set of 5.3 heads from AS.
They are running a special for a few more day in which you will recieve stage 2 5.3 heads any cam of your choice, gaskets and pushrods for 1899.
This is one hell of a deal.
However you will need the additional bolton's for your car to get the most out of a h/c setup.
I have never seen anyone do H/C without bolton's first, so I have no clue what you would pick up. I will say there would be a power increase but how much??????
To stay on the cheep side, I would do Jet hot, or pasesetter LT headers.
I would keep the stock exhaust for now and buy electronic cutouts. This way when you are going to race you can open the cutout's, and have the extra power.
If you have the extra cash then a true dual setup would be great.
You will need a lid, air filter, ported TB, headers, exhaust, etc.
All in all you should beable to pick up an additional 100 horsepower with all the mods listed above including the H/C. This should cost somewhere around 4-5 thousand depending on cost of install, and what bolton's you decide on.
Good luck to you.
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Thats me. tr224 on a 114 lsa and Jay from AS is going to send me some stg 2 5.3's along with my intake and trottle body port matched and flowed. Now that is parts made to work together




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