Should I keep looking?
06-01-2011, 09:44 AM
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Should I keep looking? so i'm about to be the proud owner of a 2000 z28 6spd with only 22k miles and bone stock, picking it up for 10k this friday. from what i've seen out there thats a good price for that mileage and what i want (bone stock)
what i was curious on is if it should keep looking and wait for a possible 01 or 02 as its got the few engine differences. from what i've read the onlly major difference is the intake which would be a sinch and quite inexpensive to change out. if anyone has a reason as to why i should keep looking for a newer one the info would be much appreciated
oh, and 10k was the most i wanted to spend too so finding newer ones would be tougher yet
thanks in advance
mike
what i was curious on is if it should keep looking and wait for a possible 01 or 02 as its got the few engine differences. from what i've read the onlly major difference is the intake which would be a sinch and quite inexpensive to change out. if anyone has a reason as to why i should keep looking for a newer one the info would be much appreciated
oh, and 10k was the most i wanted to spend too so finding newer ones would be tougher yet
thanks in advance
mike
06-01-2011, 10:04 AM
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Agreed, that is a pretty good deal if the body and interior are in good shape!
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06-01-2011, 10:07 AM
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I say pass on it and here is why. First you state you want a bone stock car, which this is and for someone who really wants a bone stck car it is perfect for them. Then you state it would be easy to change the intake to a LS6 (or later 01/02). It will and it wont be "easy". The swap is simple but then you have to do something with the EGR system, and have it tuned for the changes. Now you are no longer with an "ORIGINAL BONE STOCK CAR". You want the extra power of the 01-02, and are already planing to make changes to this one to match it, that is how we all start off, next thing you know you get out run and or use to it and you want more. It is like a drug, you get hooked and it is over with.
If you really want a Stock car then you are most likely the kind of guy that wants to sit on an all original car until it becomes a collector item and this is the car for you. If you already want a little more power then look a little longer, find a high mileage one that someone has already played a little with, for less money, pick it up and play with it.
See my logic?
Have fun either way and welcome to us speed junky world.
If you really want a Stock car then you are most likely the kind of guy that wants to sit on an all original car until it becomes a collector item and this is the car for you. If you already want a little more power then look a little longer, find a high mileage one that someone has already played a little with, for less money, pick it up and play with it.
See my logic?
Have fun either way and welcome to us speed junky world.
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06-01-2011, 10:29 AM
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10k would be more of a deciding factor over an ls6 instake. That is a great deal on a 22k mile 6 speed car. Plus putting an ls6 intake on a 98-00 ls1 nets more power due to the stock cam profile of that year model.
Here are the major differences:
2000
1. Redesigned exhaust manifolds for new emissions standard actually flowed better and created a little more HP.
2. 2000 continued use of LS1 Intake, EGR, smaller cam, and 26 lb fuel injectors
3. Added rear child seat safety hooks to interior per federal requirements
4. Very early run of WS6s had "salad shooter" style rims. A production change switched back to standard 5-spoke WS6 rims.
5. Camaros got redesigned 10-spoke base rims, and SSs came with new 10-spoke rim design
6. First year of Monterey Maple Metallic paint
7. Charcoal (grayish) interior was replaced with Ebony (almost black) leather interior
8. Cloth interior cars got new rainbow colored cloth patterns
9. Camaros only got the Pontiac steering wheel with optional audio controls
10. Throttle body cam was increased in size to slow the speed at which the car reaches WOT
11. Automatic transmission cars were reprogrammed to allow a car to start off in 2nd gear from a stop when the shift lever is put into 2.
12. The last year a WS6 Formula was offered
13. Starting 2000 intake lids contained a seperate breather filter
14. 2000+ Camaros came with body colored mirrors instead of black ones like 98-99
Stock cam: 202/210 int/exh @ 0.05" duration
0.496" / 0.496" int/exh lift
116 LSA
2001
1. A small percentage of 2001 and 2002 LS1s actually had LS6 blocks which had a different part number and a darker metal cast
2. Starting 2001, all LS1s came with an LS6 intake manifold without an EGR system
3. Advertised HP output was changed from 305 to 310 on base LS1s and from 320 to 325 on WS6s and SSs
4. 2001-02 cars have a smaller cam from the Vortec truck engines to increase low end torque
5. 2001-02 cars had 28 lb fuel injectors like the 98 cars (albeit different part numbers)
6. WS6 cars had a redesigned 5 spoke rim which was more wavy
7. WS6 cars got less suspension upgrades from a base Trans Am suspension than previous years
8. Manual transmission cars all came with the Z06 clutch
01 and 02 (had same stock cam size): 197/207 int/exh @ 0.05" duration
0.467" / 0.479" int/exh lift
116 LSA
2002 - Last year of the F-body
1. 35th Annivesary edition of the Camaro, and Collectors Edition Trans Am available
2. 2002 LS1 head gaskets redesigned. The new ones are a pressed metal, as opposed to the graphite ones and are no longer specific to the side of the car theyre installed on
3. 2002 cars continued with the LS6 intake, 28 lb fuel inectors and smaller truck cam
4. 2002 continued the use of an LS6 block in some LS1 F-bodies
5. A factory supported optional 345 HP option could be ordered from SLP
6. Manual transmission cars continued use of the Z06 clutch
7. Some 2002 model F-bodies came with a revised rear view mirror that had the map light buttons on the bottom, rather than the front.
Here are the major differences:
2000
1. Redesigned exhaust manifolds for new emissions standard actually flowed better and created a little more HP.
2. 2000 continued use of LS1 Intake, EGR, smaller cam, and 26 lb fuel injectors
3. Added rear child seat safety hooks to interior per federal requirements
4. Very early run of WS6s had "salad shooter" style rims. A production change switched back to standard 5-spoke WS6 rims.
5. Camaros got redesigned 10-spoke base rims, and SSs came with new 10-spoke rim design
6. First year of Monterey Maple Metallic paint
7. Charcoal (grayish) interior was replaced with Ebony (almost black) leather interior
8. Cloth interior cars got new rainbow colored cloth patterns
9. Camaros only got the Pontiac steering wheel with optional audio controls
10. Throttle body cam was increased in size to slow the speed at which the car reaches WOT
11. Automatic transmission cars were reprogrammed to allow a car to start off in 2nd gear from a stop when the shift lever is put into 2.
12. The last year a WS6 Formula was offered
13. Starting 2000 intake lids contained a seperate breather filter
14. 2000+ Camaros came with body colored mirrors instead of black ones like 98-99
Stock cam: 202/210 int/exh @ 0.05" duration
0.496" / 0.496" int/exh lift
116 LSA
2001
1. A small percentage of 2001 and 2002 LS1s actually had LS6 blocks which had a different part number and a darker metal cast
2. Starting 2001, all LS1s came with an LS6 intake manifold without an EGR system
3. Advertised HP output was changed from 305 to 310 on base LS1s and from 320 to 325 on WS6s and SSs
4. 2001-02 cars have a smaller cam from the Vortec truck engines to increase low end torque
5. 2001-02 cars had 28 lb fuel injectors like the 98 cars (albeit different part numbers)
6. WS6 cars had a redesigned 5 spoke rim which was more wavy
7. WS6 cars got less suspension upgrades from a base Trans Am suspension than previous years
8. Manual transmission cars all came with the Z06 clutch
01 and 02 (had same stock cam size): 197/207 int/exh @ 0.05" duration
0.467" / 0.479" int/exh lift
116 LSA
2002 - Last year of the F-body
1. 35th Annivesary edition of the Camaro, and Collectors Edition Trans Am available
2. 2002 LS1 head gaskets redesigned. The new ones are a pressed metal, as opposed to the graphite ones and are no longer specific to the side of the car theyre installed on
3. 2002 cars continued with the LS6 intake, 28 lb fuel inectors and smaller truck cam
4. 2002 continued the use of an LS6 block in some LS1 F-bodies
5. A factory supported optional 345 HP option could be ordered from SLP
6. Manual transmission cars continued use of the Z06 clutch
7. Some 2002 model F-bodies came with a revised rear view mirror that had the map light buttons on the bottom, rather than the front.
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06-01-2011, 10:32 AM
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holy crap, can't believe the responses so fast, i'm use to a little community forum that takes a day to respond.. haha
but i am gonna buy it, but as texas ws6 said i do need to leave it stock, and will, for a long time anyway.. uh.. except the exhaust.. but thats for note, not power. and ya i wasnt gonna rush out and swap the intake, altho i thought it gained more horses than that. thanks for the input everyone and glad to see others thinking its a good deal, cuz i sure feel it is.
this lady has owned its since it had 4k miles on it and in the last nine years only put 18k. she says its always garaged with a cover on it so the paint and interior are perfect but we'll see when i get down there
but i am gonna buy it, but as texas ws6 said i do need to leave it stock, and will, for a long time anyway.. uh.. except the exhaust.. but thats for note, not power. and ya i wasnt gonna rush out and swap the intake, altho i thought it gained more horses than that. thanks for the input everyone and glad to see others thinking its a good deal, cuz i sure feel it is.
this lady has owned its since it had 4k miles on it and in the last nine years only put 18k. she says its always garaged with a cover on it so the paint and interior are perfect but we'll see when i get down there
06-01-2011, 12:08 PM
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they are cloth seats... which is good and bad as all the leather ones i've seen have been torn to ****. but maybe the cloth design is similar to the TA?
06-01-2011, 06:00 PM
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i keep waiting for this women to back out of the deal. she's got two boys, one 25 and one 22, you think one of em would know a little more about camaros and how cheap she's getting rid of it for
