HVYMTL

Hoping PatrickG or PredatorZ will chime in...

I'm looking to order this cam (the el torro I guess) for my 01 Z28 (mods in signature) and my question is : Is there a good set off beehive springs that would work well with this cam? I'm on the fence whether to use beehives or dual springs, and I would rather use beehives after studying the benefits (yes I used the search button, haha!) Also, I think PredatorZ recommends 7.425 pushrods with this cam, I just want to confirm this or get other opinions. I have the stock 241 heads, never been off the block as far as I can tell. Car is my daily driver but I have no problem rolling around town in a track car if it comes to that point Probably go to the track 3-4 times a year, more in the future. Thanks in advance for your input!

EDIT ...meant to add I want to have the cam ground on a 110 LSA

mark21742

Comp918s are rated at .625" lift

HVYMTL

Any idea how long the 918's would hold up? Like I said probably 3-4 track trips per season unless I get to go more, 6-7 passes each usually. Plus 10k ish street miles per year

mark21742

When you get at or over .600" lift you should check your spring pressure atleast once a year (10-12,000 miles)

Damian

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PS1 1511 beehives will handle that lift no problem, reliably.

HVYMTL

Cool, I'll look em up. It's gonna be a while before I can afford my parts list, but I'm about to start collecting everything. Can't wait to get a cam in my car!!!

Sales2@Texas-speed

iTrader: (5)

PAC 1518's!

http://texas-speed.com/p-438-pac-151...e-springs.aspx

HVYMTL

Guess I've always looked over the .650 beehives on the TSP site. Just filled out the custom cam package order form and saved it to my wishlist



One other question for the camshaft smart guys, I have to provide LSA and ICL specs... I'm not very educated on ICL's yet, what should I go with considering the 230/230 .612/.592 on a 110 LSA?

PREDATOR-Z

PAC 1518 installed at correct height will handle this cam easily.
If you want to cut it on 110 LSA, it should be 110-1LSA (otherwise known as 110 LSA and 111 ICL.

HVYMTL

Got it, thanks for stepping in. I've been following your threads on reverse splits/general cam stuff for quite a while on here. It makes it almost impossible to make a decision! I thought I was set on the TSP Torquer V2 but from what I've read so far, staying with the 241 heads (for now) and LS6 intake, the El Torro based cam should do better for me as far as under the curve power and torque... right? And my math if the formula was right gives the spec'd cam I'm considering 10* of overlap versus the TV2's ~9.5*? I still want my car to have a good lope... I'm not down with the stealth aspect lol

PREDATOR-Z

Do a before and after dyno, so you know how much power you are getting at every rpm.
The trq curve will be sweet.
The TV2 is a good cam, originaly put out by Compcam. I like it on a 111+3 LSA

HVYMTL

Unfortunately, I don't know of any shops close to my area, nor will I have enough cash to do two dyno comparrisons... But I would love to know the numbers! haha

Would there be a significant difference in power or VE's, etc if you were to say spec a cam the same style as the el torro but with more duration... say a 234/234 (LSK/XER or XFI/XER lobes)?

PREDATOR-Z

The 230/230 is actualy a 232/230 XFI/XER
There is no 234 duration in advertised XFI.

Bigger duration will theoreticaly make more power under the right parameters and the VEs would be different.

HVYMTL

I see, I'm not that familiar with the lobe/duration available unless I have a list in front of me haha... SO hypothetically, take this for example:

236/236 .615/.602 XFI/XER combo on a 110 or 111 LSA... your thoughts?

HVYMTL

sidenote... just realized how off topic this has gone from my original post. haha oh well.

bene

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I'm sure there is one near or at Ft Smith and def two reputable dyno/ tuner shops in Little Rock area.

HVYMTL

I'm in the NWA Bentonville/Fayetteville area. There may be a dyno close...not sure of a tuner. As far as tuning goes one of my friends here has HPtuners on his laptop and we were gonna try to tune my car that way first, once I actually do the cam anyways. Closest 'reputable' dyno tuner that I know of is in OKC.

HVYMTL

Little Rock would be closer than OKC...hmm... thanks for the heads up!

PREDATOR-Z

It would require more compression and flycutting to reach its capabilities. On stock heads and comp. the 230 is as big as I like for best returns.
BTW, I've done this cam on a LS2 402 and the trq curve was mouthwatering

HVYMTL

I was really curious if you had ever tried the same concept on a bigger scale...

If you say 230 is the optimal size on stock 241's and stock compression, I'll probably take your word. I just want to get the most out of it and not wish I would have gone bigger afterwards, but the results I've seen so far pretty much prove the torque coming out of a setup like that is on par or even better than many of the off-the-shelf cams I *was* looking at...