500 WHP LS build
08-27-2011, 06:18 PM
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500 WHP LS build Well I have dealt with the LT motors it was fun but just not as fun as I could have turned out to be. I'll be Enlisting in the Air force Later this week and when I get through Basic/Tech School I want to start building an LS based car (Trans AM) I see the insane thing people do with these motors and it just blows my mind. I want the car to make 500 WHP and still be a street car. Not sure with these but is that doable with out boost either way thats the goal within the next couple years. What are guys doing to get these kind of numbers I would love to see mid 10's and be able to drive it home 
I know this will cost TONS of money but I'm just wondering what kind of money it will take I know drivetrain will have to be 100% replaced to meet my goal. So what do you guys think?????
I know this will cost TONS of money but I'm just wondering what kind of money it will take I know drivetrain will have to be 100% replaced to meet my goal. So what do you guys think?????
08-27-2011, 06:51 PM
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easy $10k in the engine. 5-6k into the transmission, clutch and rear end. That's just the parts, labor is gonna add up and every dyno tune is $500.
thank you for your service. What is your AFSC?
thank you for your service. What is your AFSC?
08-27-2011, 07:12 PM
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Well I have dealt with the LT motors it was fun but just not as fun as I could have turned out to be. I'll be Enlisting in the Air force Later this week and when I get through Basic/Tech School I want to start building an LS based car (Trans AM) I see the insane thing people do with these motors and it just blows my mind. I want the car to make 500 WHP and still be a street car. Not sure with these but is that doable with out boost either way thats the goal within the next couple years. What are guys doing to get these kind of numbers I would love to see mid 10's and be able to drive it home
I know this will cost TONS of money but I'm just wondering what kind of money it will take I know drivetrain will have to be 100% replaced to meet my goal. So what do you guys think?????
I know this will cost TONS of money but I'm just wondering what kind of money it will take I know drivetrain will have to be 100% replaced to meet my goal. So what do you guys think?????
I've had A4 with 4000 stall, stock 342 diff. and 232 cam into the 10s 10.6@ 125mph.
Of course attention to some details is required, plenty tuning and minor suspension work (Even had stock torque arm).
08-27-2011, 07:23 PM
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I'll going to MEPS with an open mind on things I want to do due to how tight it is getting in now but was told Mechanic jobs are whats opening right now so I'll probably go into that field I WANT to do communications but like I said I've been on a waiting list just to get to MEPS so anything at this point would be great.
Dang you don't see any of the LT stuff even close to that there seems to be LOADS of more potential in this platform. Like I said I want it to be a car that I can drive 1000 miles and not have a problem as well as knocking down some awesome numbers
Dang you don't see any of the LT stuff even close to that there seems to be LOADS of more potential in this platform. Like I said I want it to be a car that I can drive 1000 miles and not have a problem as well as knocking down some awesome numbers
08-29-2011, 10:24 AM
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Your best bet would to get a 5.3 or 6.0 block, install a ls6 cam,317 heads,ls6 intake, and put a t76 turbo setup on it. You could build this for damn near the price it its going to cost to get 500whp na out of a ls1, but make 100 more whp and it will drive like stock.
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08-30-2011, 06:09 PM
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ive got an a4 98 camaro h/c bolt-ons through a yank ss4000 loose converter and 3.73 gears slp catback with pace y pipe n its very streetable n made 438rwhp n 403rwtq on stock bottomend with arp rod bolts tuner (bryan herter) said do kn filter n tru duals n id be lookin round 455 to 460 to the tires so 10-15k is crazy ive got 7k in complete car n it started out a v6 t5 car imo its very doable just do ur research n gd luck
08-31-2011, 10:19 AM
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Not to rain on your parade, but you may want to save your money for a while. I'm AD AF right now and I remember when I got out of tech school my paycheck, as an E3, left a lot to be desired. I'd save your cash until after your first deployment, sell your LT1 before you go, and buy an LS equipped vehicle when you get back. You'll be in the dorms unless you're married and it's just a hassle relying on the hobby shops for work space. Been there, done this.
Also, don't settle on a job. Wait for the one you want or you'll regret it later.
Also, don't settle on a job. Wait for the one you want or you'll regret it later.
08-31-2011, 11:38 AM
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ive got an a4 98 camaro h/c bolt-ons through a yank ss4000 loose converter and 3.73 gears slp catback with pace y pipe n its very streetable n made 438rwhp n 403rwtq on stock bottomend with arp rod bolts tuner (bryan herter) said do kn filter n tru duals n id be lookin round 455 to 460 to the tires so 10-15k is crazy ive got 7k in complete car n it started out a v6 t5 car imo its very doable just do ur research n gd luck
tea trick flow 235cc are 2500.00 w/ valvetrain= 3200.00.(roughly)
fast 102 w/ tb= 1500.00
cam shaft=400.00
total is around 5100.00 and thats just the topend. Even if the op went with a used stock bottem end ls1, its going to cost atleast 1k. Im sure there will be parts that he can sell to reduce the cost some, but you get the idea. Point is, building a 500whp ls1 na is PRICEY and comparing it to a 430whp build is pointless!!
08-31-2011, 03:00 PM
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JMO, if 500whp is your goal thats great.But I would work my way up to that instead of hitting that on my first try.I'm doing an ls swap and my goal is 400hp.Don't know if i ever want to see 500 at the wheels.That will cost alot of cash.
08-31-2011, 05:50 PM
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hmmmm,
418 stroker from tsp with everything but intake and rails, $9000
go lQ4/9 and now you are at $8500
Lawhead, i was exactly where you were at, wanting 500rwhp out of my z28. after adding my list up, it cam to about $11000. now with that setup, i figured i should be about 500-525rwhp and that was with a 240/244 cam and as cast 220s. someone then got me looking into getting an ls2 stoker from tsp and guess what, my build changed to a 418 ls3. my motor with intake, rails, and all the other small necessities to put in an fbody came to $11500. that 418 with ls7 small bore heads and oem ls7 intake would be making 575-600 rwhp. so 75 more hp, and god know how much more torque......those extra cubes make a ton of torque. id say for 500-1000 extra you could be seeing 75 more hp and 100+ more tq. torque is what gets you great drag times, not hp.
418 stroker from tsp with everything but intake and rails, $9000
go lQ4/9 and now you are at $8500
Lawhead, i was exactly where you were at, wanting 500rwhp out of my z28. after adding my list up, it cam to about $11000. now with that setup, i figured i should be about 500-525rwhp and that was with a 240/244 cam and as cast 220s. someone then got me looking into getting an ls2 stoker from tsp and guess what, my build changed to a 418 ls3. my motor with intake, rails, and all the other small necessities to put in an fbody came to $11500. that 418 with ls7 small bore heads and oem ls7 intake would be making 575-600 rwhp. so 75 more hp, and god know how much more torque......those extra cubes make a ton of torque. id say for 500-1000 extra you could be seeing 75 more hp and 100+ more tq. torque is what gets you great drag times, not hp.
09-04-2011, 04:07 PM
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09-04-2011, 07:18 PM
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Mid 10s could be had cam only. A 01/02 TA can get you there easier. Can can be from 230 duration on intake and above. Auto with stall is prefered (requires less power to achieve same goals).
I've had A4 with 4000 stall, stock 342 diff. and 232 cam into the 10s 10.6@ 125mph.
Of course attention to some details is required, plenty tuning and minor suspension work (Even had stock torque arm).
I've had A4 with 4000 stall, stock 342 diff. and 232 cam into the 10s 10.6@ 125mph.
Of course attention to some details is required, plenty tuning and minor suspension work (Even had stock torque arm).