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Old 10-20-2011, 08:45 PM
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Question ASA Cam Enough Vacuum for Power Brakes?

Does anyone have or know anyone who has run the ASA cam? Did it have enough vacuum for the power brakes?
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Don't know if it does, but if it doesn't, you can run a vacuum reservior.
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I havent heard of any vacuum issues with a large cam LS
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I have wondered about the vacuum production also with that cam also.

One thing to be aware of is that the GMPP ASA cam has a ton of overlap. It is ground with very long seat timing and has slow ramps.

It took some digging through the archives, but I finally found the advertised duration figures for the GMPP ASA cam.

Advertised Duration @.006: Intake 286° / Exhaust 300° = 73° @.006" Overlap
Duration @.050: Intake 226° / Exhaust 236° = 11° @.050" overlap
Intake .525"/ Exhaust .525"

I made some recent comments about the ASA as a venerable performer in the ls376/515. However, after spending some time looking at the numbers and comparing it with the various Comp lobes, ie XFI, XE, XE-R, LSL, EPS, ect... it kinda makes me want to recall advising anyone to use it as a decent baseline choice...

The @.050 numbers are what seems good, but the .006 numbers are huge, and with the slow ramps I am sure the .200 numbers are not that aggressive/impressive.

- Just about any lobe in the Comp catalog with duration figures similar @.050 / LSA would stomp the ASA.
A similarly spec'ed @.050 cam using EPS intake/PatG exhaust would idle better, generate more vacuum, and would make much more power. Better at every RPM point, and especially under the curve.
(and with those lobes it should have a quiet valvetrain)

Sorry if this is tangential info to your vacuum question.

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Why Asa what do you want that your current cam isn't giving you
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Originally Posted by topbrent
One thing to be aware of is that the GMPP ASA cam has a ton of overlap. It is ground with very long seat timing and has slow ramps.

The @.050 numbers are what seems good, but the .006 numbers are huge, and with the slow ramps I am sure the .200 numbers are not that aggressive/impressive.
That is a very good point topbrent. I did consider that it likely had slow ramps. But, if that will run power brakes, the grinds I am considering should have no problem. I am looking at a few custom combinations with 10-11 degrees of overlap but with modern lobes.
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The cam was meant to be run with very little spring pressure, and it performs OK. You will have plenty of vacuum for power brakes but there is a lot of cams that will work much better.
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11 degrees of overlap isn't even close to taxing power brakes.....mine still work fine with over 30 degrees of overlap.
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Originally Posted by jmm98LS1
11 degrees of overlap isn't even close to taxing power brakes.....mine still work fine with over 30 degrees of overlap.
This is good info. Thanx jmm98LS1
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good info.....as I was contemplating the asa cam
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Originally Posted by pairof69s
good info.....as I was contemplating the asa cam
Me, too. Thanks for the info.
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What about the ASA installed in a Carbed ls1 using the edelbrock vr jr and a QFT 750?
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Originally Posted by supspt454
What about the ASA installed in a Carbed ls1 using the edelbrock vr jr and a QFT 750?
We have road raced with this combo, works well and is a good performer for a relative low lift cam. I agree though that are better choices, especially for street/strip applications. This combo made about 465 HP at the flywheel in a stock comp 5.7 with unported heads.



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