znig22

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I read all the time what internals are being thrown in these ls1's, I have a ls1 that is bone stock other then your simple bolt on's LT, Tune, Intake, MSD wires and (coils whenever they come in, their backordered).. The car is a 02 SS, built 4l60, yank 3600ss, 4.10 gears, 325-50-15 MT streets and a full BMR adjustable suspension, the car has been 8.02 "with no CAM" in the 1/8 and I bought it bone stock. the motor has 192,xxx and im having a direct port nitrous system built for the car and i will progress it hoping I can get it in the 7.teens... I dont think the motor will last with the 150 shot.. so my question continues, I need direction on a 383 stroker (ie. crank, rods, and pistons and heads) i will deal with the cam though my local shop Hawks Third Gen. I want to progress a 225 shot through the engine and hopefully run low to mid 6's. But I cant afford Callies cranks and so on. so whats a good set-up for my internals? My head situation is, I would like to just by a set of aftermarket heads and spend between 1500 and 1800 I would like to be as close to 500hp as I can NA, and at 700hp on spray. So help me decide please.

trans_am7935

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well if your goal is just to spray the **** out of it, then i would go forged weisco pistons, steel top ring set w/napier oil ring. keep the crank stock and pick up a set of stock stroke H-beams. that will keep you in a good budget. the stock crank is pretty stout piece. so if no boost and just nitrous, then you need some good pistons, and a good fuel management system.

trans_am7935

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for heads i would look for some used AFR 205/210 or TFS 215CNC. for new ones i would look at the TFS 220 as cast heads. they run about 1600, but you will need roller rockers

LilJayV10

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Why don't you think the motor will last with a 150 shot?

znig22

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I'd like to get a little more power out of it n/a then just pistons, rods and heads and a big cam i'd be looking at around 430 with that set up and if I stay on track with my 383 plan i think a might can get a little closer to 500 hp n/a hopefully. So id like to get some info on that set-up. But lil jay at a 150 shot and 192,000 miles i think she will be starting a slow death. Oh i forgot to mention my fuel system earlier i got a racetronix fuel pump and the hot wire kit installed 2 weeks ago.

91sonomast

Get on eBay, I was surfing it last night, you can piece together a kit pretty cheap. Or buy parts here and there, buy a crank first, then pick up rods later, then a set of pistons and rings. There was a set of lunati rods used for a short time for like $400 other day

ZTwentyAteU

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Just spray a 250 on it and a good cam and see what it does. If its tuned good it will keep on trucking, and fly. You can make a tad over 400 wheel plus nitrous and run plenty quick.

I built a budget 10.90 (6.90s) camaro with just a regrind cam and 150 shot back years ago. It only ran 8.teens on the motor and 6.90s on 150 shot, 200 if the track was bad. Your already ahead of that running 8.0s. I did it on a 255/50 drag radial, full weight street car w/ a/c. 3.23 gears, and rear suspension parts only. 2800 stall. It only made 363hp on motor, 530 on..cant remember but I think it was a .063 jet. Old NX MAF housing kit with -6 feed line and standalone cell

pick a good cam that likes nitrous and let her eat

BigRich954RR

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get a stand alone fuel cell run c116 so it just spray when no2 is on will make it safer and last longer less chance of knocking

znig22

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Good info so far but what I am seeking is name brands on a crank, rods and i'm going to run the wiseco pistons, but as for a 383 stroker crank and rods what would be a safe and not super expensive set up. I would like to do what sonomast mentioned, piece a kit together but I dont know what is the best bang for the buck that will with stand the 700hp on spray that i am aiming for??

RezinTexas

This is what I have and it will be good for your setup also:

K1 4" Crank - $860
Eagle H-Beam rods with ARP 8740 bolts - $430

Those are the prices I got from TSP. For $60 more you can upgrade to ARP 2000 rod bolts and be good to 900 hp.

A.R. Shale Targa

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Check this out....
http://www.ohiocrank.com/chevyls_cranks.html
Also one of the reasons people use small journal (2.00") Callies cranks is the
reduced size of the big end of the rod requires much less block clearancing

RonSSNova

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How much clearancing does the block need?
Scat makes good products.

Ron

JS01

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Cancel your order/get a refund on the MSD coils (they're ****) and theres most of the money for a crank.....

znig22

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I traded a stock set of coils which are still on my car and my ls6 intake for a set of truck coils which were brand new and sent them back to msd to exchange for the coils for a ls engine, I have been dealing with joe pando from msd he is over the sales dept. he said they had trouble with them, then fixed what was wrong and thats why there on a 3 month back order... Also before everyone comments and says truck coils are better, their actually the same according to a 30 minute conversation with Joe.

Back to my engine build, honestly from other members would you go through the whole stroking it to a 383 or just polish and balance my stock crank and throw a really good set of rods and pistons in that sucker?? Would it really be worth it in rwhp to do the 383??

COPO9560

Take whatever money you would spend on the crank and invest it into your head, cam and intake purchase. Good set of rods and 2618 alloy pistons with stock crank will take some serious abuse. Not sure what you have against Wiseco - they make a great product. Use ARP studs on the bottom end and get the block align honed with these torqued in place and you will be good to go.

If you are not going crazy with nitrous, a good set of GM heads ported by AI or others can get you a lot of power for less money than aftermarket route.

Lastly, consider selling your LS1 long block and getting into an Gen III iron block 370 where all your covers, sensors etc still fits. 4 inch bore opens up more head options (including great bang for the buck LS3 heads & intake).

RezinTexas

you won't get much hp (if any) from increasing the stroke alone. But you will move the torque curve up and to the right.