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10-03-2012, 11:42 AM
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Heads/CAM HELP !!! I would have asked in other related threads but didnt want to hi-jack someones thread lol.
I'm looking at getting a heads/cam package. my mod list is this (1999 Camaro SS M6)
Corsa Cat-back
Hooker long tubes
LCA's with reloc. brackets
Bilstein Shocks
Short shifter
Built 10 bolt with moser axels and moser 373's
LID
315 Nitto DR's
I'm a college guy and I drive my care daily, so i need it to stay street friendly however I want to make as much power as I can while still being able to have it as a DD. I have never dyno'ed my car so the power it makes right now I have no clue on. Can you guys shoot me some numbers on what you think my car puts down now? and how much i would be looking at with your suggested heads/cam setup? Also can a $3,000 budget get it done?
My best time at the 1/8 track is a 8.8 @84 with a 2.1 60ft that was without the relocation brackets,headers and bilsteins on.
I'm looking at getting a heads/cam package. my mod list is this (1999 Camaro SS M6)
Corsa Cat-back
Hooker long tubes
LCA's with reloc. brackets
Bilstein Shocks
Short shifter
Built 10 bolt with moser axels and moser 373's
LID
315 Nitto DR's
I'm a college guy and I drive my care daily, so i need it to stay street friendly however I want to make as much power as I can while still being able to have it as a DD. I have never dyno'ed my car so the power it makes right now I have no clue on. Can you guys shoot me some numbers on what you think my car puts down now? and how much i would be looking at with your suggested heads/cam setup? Also can a $3,000 budget get it done?
My best time at the 1/8 track is a 8.8 @84 with a 2.1 60ft that was without the relocation brackets,headers and bilsteins on.
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10-03-2012, 11:52 AM
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Bolt on ls1's with a 6 speed trans usually make in the area of 335- 350 rwhp. Torque is close to hp . A good mild setup for daily driving and budget friendly ish would be some prc 2.5 heads perferably 5.3 's imo. And the 224 cam or 228 from texas speed. With a stock intake it should be good for 420 rwhp average. Study the dyno section and search different heads cam packages.
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well thats not too bad, I just dont want a setup where I have to change or check them every 5k cause that would be a lot of money considering i drive this thing daily lol
10-04-2012, 11:21 PM
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I Daily Drive my car 10 miles a day. I got a 228R Cam fom Texas Speed, very good cam. with a 3600 Stall and a tune. I also getting 14mpg on the city & 22mpg on the highway. 220R, 224R, 228R Cam and PRC LS6 Stage 1 or 2.5 heads are good for DD
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10-06-2012, 09:54 AM
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Don't forget about the oil pump, trunion upgrade, lifters, trays, timing chain, and gaskets which will run you about another $650. If you're on a strict budget, pick up a stock set of 243's on here for $400 and get them freshened up at you local machine shop, all for under a grand. Do it right and go with dual springs from TSP, the kit is $740 which isn't bad. This will put you right at $2100 for parts, not including installation or tune. Like I said, $3500 is a little closer to reality for a decent H/C setup after it's all said and done if you have to pay for labor.
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10-06-2012, 03:04 PM
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Might change the coolant when you drain it for H & C and flush the radiator if that hasn't been done in a while. It's easy to do a little preventive maintaince while doing H&C. Don't be surprised if a radiator hose or two needs replacing etc. Mine is also a 99 about due for new radiator hoses. I would allow some extra money for things that come up unexpected at least a buffer of $1000.
Does your clutch hold well? Sometimes with a big power upgrade a new clutch isn't too far away. I was lucky my stock clutch held up fine after H&C and is still in the car and doesn't slip.
If your doing a 224 or 228 @.050 cam, I suggest allowing some extra money for tuning. This will make for a much better daily driver experience.
Likewise, if you don't have an LS6 intake, I'd get one for the H&C swap so you can get the most out of the mod's your making.
My H & C set up while very old over ten years so I'm not up on the current prices for H & C. I have a 224 XE-R cam. Typically my springs have needed replacement at about 30,000 miles but I'm pretty easy on the car. If I beat on the car a lot, I would be looking at the springs after 20,000 miles.
Does your clutch hold well? Sometimes with a big power upgrade a new clutch isn't too far away. I was lucky my stock clutch held up fine after H&C and is still in the car and doesn't slip.
If your doing a 224 or 228 @.050 cam, I suggest allowing some extra money for tuning. This will make for a much better daily driver experience.
Likewise, if you don't have an LS6 intake, I'd get one for the H&C swap so you can get the most out of the mod's your making.
My H & C set up while very old over ten years so I'm not up on the current prices for H & C. I have a 224 XE-R cam. Typically my springs have needed replacement at about 30,000 miles but I'm pretty easy on the car. If I beat on the car a lot, I would be looking at the springs after 20,000 miles.
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Might change the coolant when you drain it for H & C and flush the radiator if that hasn't been done in a while. It's easy to do a little preventive maintaince while doing H&C. Don't be surprised if a radiator hose or two needs replacing etc. Mine is also a 99 about due for new radiator hoses. I would allow some extra money for things that come up unexpected at least a buffer of $1000.
Does your clutch hold well? Sometimes with a big power upgrade a new clutch isn't too far away. I was lucky my stock clutch held up fine after H&C and is still in the car and doesn't slip.
If your doing a 224 or 228 @.050 cam, I suggest allowing some extra money for tuning. This will make for a much better daily driver experience.
Likewise, if you don't have an LS6 intake, I'd get one for the H&C swap so you can get the most out of the mod's your making.
My H & C set up while very old over ten years so I'm not up on the current prices for H & C. I have a 224 XE-R cam. Typically my springs have needed replacement at about 30,000 miles but I'm pretty easy on the car. If I beat on the car a lot, I would be looking at the springs after 20,000 miles.
Does your clutch hold well? Sometimes with a big power upgrade a new clutch isn't too far away. I was lucky my stock clutch held up fine after H&C and is still in the car and doesn't slip.
If your doing a 224 or 228 @.050 cam, I suggest allowing some extra money for tuning. This will make for a much better daily driver experience.
Likewise, if you don't have an LS6 intake, I'd get one for the H&C swap so you can get the most out of the mod's your making.
My H & C set up while very old over ten years so I'm not up on the current prices for H & C. I have a 224 XE-R cam. Typically my springs have needed replacement at about 30,000 miles but I'm pretty easy on the car. If I beat on the car a lot, I would be looking at the springs after 20,000 miles.
10-06-2012, 04:17 PM
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im gonna do the same thing but im going a little more radical. im gonna do the EPS 236/248 cam with .617/.617 lift with PRC 225cc heads and a FAST 92/92 setup with upgraded injectors and the full bolt ons. Im looking to make 450whp+ and still have it be a DD. And im also hoping (and this is really hopeful with a good tune and a light foot) to get 18-25 mpg. i know this really doesnt pertain to you but i figured id through my 2 cents in.
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im gonna do the same thing but im going a little more radical. im gonna do the EPS 236/248 cam with .617/.617 lift with PRC 225cc heads and a FAST 92/92 setup with upgraded injectors and the full bolt ons. Im looking to make 450whp+ and still have it be a DD. And im also hoping (and this is really hopeful with a good tune and a light foot) to get 18-25 mpg. i know this really doesnt pertain to you but i figured id through my 2 cents in.
