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Old 01-31-2013, 07:14 PM
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hey guys so basically i am gonna be doing a cam swap for my 2000 a4 z28 within the next month, i plan on doing the tsp v2 with stage 2.5 ls6 heads. also upgrading lifters oil pump and intake manifold to complement my cam. here is my problem i would like to know if i really need to have a stall and gears right away to go along with the cam or will it be ok to run for a little bit on the stock stall and 3.23 rear end?? now i DO NOT intend on taking it to the track during that time but i would like to make some pulls on the highway maybe i just wanna know if it would be safe to do so with the stock setup?
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Stall Yes
Gears No


If you dont do the stall heres whats going to happen:
Your car is going to push through your brakes hard. It will be terrible to drive, and a total dog down low.
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taint is exactly right. dont do a cam if you dont plan on changing the stall
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Originally Posted by Tainted
Stall Yes
Gears No


If you dont do the stall heres whats going to happen:
Your car is going to push through your brakes hard. It will be terrible to drive, and a total dog down low.
ok then in regards to the stall what would go really well with the v2 from texas speed, plus i do plan on doing gears in the future but only 3.42's so that would have to be taken into consideration as well
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I had the 228r and they are fairly similar. I had a performabuilt 9.5" 3000 stall and I really liked it. I wanted something very tight like stock and not a lot of slop and I was pleased with my choice. For a daily driven car I wouldnt get larger than a 3600 but for me, closer to 3200.
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I have the V2 with 3600 stall... it launches hard and drives well on the street.

If you drive 100% on the street you could probably get away with a lower stall and it would drive a little nicer, but it would kill your 60ft.

On the other hand, it is very streetable with the 3600 and im sure 4000 with some deep gears would do just as well. Mines drives very nice with 3600 and 3.73s but I am swapping to 4.11 as soon as my parts get here.

The only part that sucks is that you lose all your handling when you go to a stall converter. Nothing quite like that feeling when you bomb into a corner and that bastard unlocks and trys to slide you into a ditch.



Edit: Just read that you want to keep 3.42's. Go with a lower stall, the taller gears will make the converter seem looser than it is.
I worked on a car for a guy one time who had a big cam in a big block and stock stall. You literally had to stand on the brake petal to keep it from rolling forward.
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Originally Posted by Tainted
I had the 228r and they are fairly similar. I had a performabuilt 9.5" 3000 stall and I really liked it. I wanted something very tight like stock and not a lot of slop and I was pleased with my choice. For a daily driven car I wouldnt get larger than a 3600 but for me, closer to 3200.
i do want something that will still drive great, but why do you recommend 3600 or larger? what would be the big difference between a 3600 and a 3200 as far as driveability? cause this is my daily driver. btw thank you for the responses thus far you have been very helpful
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Originally Posted by blackfbird98
i do want something that will still drive great, but why do you recommend 3600 or larger? what would be the big difference between a 3600 and a 3200 as far as driveability? cause this is my daily driver. btw thank you for the responses thus far you have been very helpful
I WOULDNT go larger than 3600. For you, Yank SS3200 is right up your alley
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Originally Posted by Tainted
I WOULDNT go larger than 3600. For you, Yank SS3200 is right up your alley
ok im deff gonna have to check that out, now as far as the stall goes should i add on anything else to the tranny? i already have a b&m tranny cooler on there and i realize adding a stall will generate more heat like i said before i really am not going to beat on this car to much maybe just a couple runs here and there on the highway and i dont wanna dish out the money for a different tranny just yet if i can make this 4l60 last with this setup ill be happy
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If you already have a cooler then youre good to go. A HUGE part of it is in your tune.
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Originally Posted by Tainted
If you already have a cooler then youre good to go. A HUGE part of it is in your tune.
ok and last but not least if i go with the 3200 stall do you feel that would work well together with my stock 3.23's?
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Originally Posted by blackfbird98
ok and last but not least if i go with the 3200 stall do you feel that would work well together with my stock 3.23's?
I had 3.23s so yea.
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great. thank you again you have been VERY helpful
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I would do the 3600. Not much difference in driving characteristics between the two and it will be noticeably faster that way.
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X2 on that one 3600 FTW!!!
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I have 3.42 gears and a yank 3600 good combo.
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Yank SS3600, I DD my Vette with it. Awesome.
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Is it really worth the gear change to go 3.23 to 3.42?? I'd be looking at 3.73s and a yank 3600. JMO!!
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I'm going to go against the grain here. You asked if it was absolutely crucial. The answer is no. I drove my car with a 234/244 cam, stock stall and 2.56 gear for a year before swapping stall and gears. It didn't like to idle in gear that well but it was manageable. Of course the gears and stall really woke it up, but not crucial to driving it and won't hurt a thing
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Originally Posted by 88Fbody6L
I'm going to go against the grain here. You asked if it was absolutely crucial. The answer is no. I drove my car with a 234/244 cam, stock stall and 2.56 gear for a year before swapping stall and gears. It didn't like to idle in gear that well but it was manageable. Of course the gears and stall really woke it up, but not crucial to driving it and won't hurt a thing
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