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Old 03-22-2013, 09:43 PM
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Couple cnc'd cylinder heads we have laying around for various customers builds and my own. Also have 2 sets of 280cc LS3 heads here as well that have been CNC'd by Phil@Ai, but no pictures of them yet. I'll get some soon.

TEA TFS 215's:

















Ai 232cc 243 castings:













Ai 280cc LSA castings(mine):













Cross sectional area comparison. 280cc, 232cc, 215cc



Cross sectional area comparison. 90cc, 80cc, 80cc



Any questions about each build feel free to ask! We use Ai and TEA for all of our CNC work and TEA is where we buy our TFS heads from as they do awesome work with the TFS castings. We use PRC from time to time as well when a customer requests it, but don't currently have anything of theirs here in house.

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LSA heads huh? Hmm...
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Those LSA heads sure look nice
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I can't wait to see how you build turns out Martin. Those pictures make me super jelous.
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That's just wrong to tease us like that!!! LOL But they sure look like artwork, no doubt about it!! Maybe in the near future I'll see some pictures I recognise!
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
LSA heads huh? Hmm...
You probably weren't expecting that from me were you?
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Those LSA heads sure look nice
I'll make you a deal you can't refuse!
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I can't wait to see how you build turns out Martin. Those pictures make me super jelous.
I can't either! I've got a lot of good people helping me.
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That's just wrong to tease us like that!!! LOL But they sure look like artwork, no doubt about it!! Maybe in the near future I'll see some pictures I recognise!
Next up...5.3 head pictures!
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Man those 232's really look nice! It's great to see the different heads next to each other for eyeball comparisson.

Thanks Martin!
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Heads ****! (that sounded strange..) Martin, do the AI 219 HCR look that good too?
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Notice the chamfering/deburr detail work AI performs. Nice touch that really shows quality.
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I'll make you a deal you can't refuse!
Don't tempt me
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
Man those 232's really look nice! It's great to see the different heads next to each other for eyeball comparisson.

Thanks Martin!
I think they'd make just as much power as your 205's if not more! Phil's 5.3's have already been proven to make 10-15rwhp more than PI 215's. I would certainly think the 230cc runner would make a good bit more power than a 205cc runner. Velocity will be much higher with the 230cc port as it still retains a 2.00" valve. FPS in the port will be greater with the Ai heads.

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Heads ****! (that sounded strange..) Martin, do the AI 219 HCR look that good too?
Of course they do! Notice though how the TEA TFS heads don't "look" anywhere as nice as the Ai heads. It really means nothing as they both perform excellently. Each head has it's own design characteristics that makes them great, but in the end they all retain one key design and that is killer flow in the right applications.
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Notice the chamfering/deburr detail work AI performs. Nice touch that really shows quality.
Yes the port floor on the 243's you can really see the chamfering.
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Don't tempt me
We can do another set of LSA's, or even go to a set of LS9's! That said, we can always have your LS3's done. I'll post up pictures of the 280cc LS3's we have here right now and the other set of LS3's we have at Ai. Those are being done for that stock bottom end 2013 Grand Sport with the YSi on it that made 765rwhp. Hoping it cracks well over 800rwhp with the new CNC heads.
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The Ai heads look really good, kind of makes me wish i'd tried a pair of them for my build.
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So if for some reason you guys modified some TFS heads would that make them "Tick Flow"?
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Those 232s look great. Im in for results.
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How will those 232's perform on a 403???
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Originally Posted by 97camaro383
The Ai heads look really good, kind of makes me wish i'd tried a pair of them for my build.
Remember, the look of the actual CNC work can be modified easily by the cut being performed. Looks don't always mean the best performance as it can be said that we all know how well the TEA TFS CNC program is. It is the same program Tooley had on his 245cc TFS heads on his 454 and many many other members of this website and around the world have as well. Mike Brown used the TFS 235cc heads to go 7.80's with a hydraulic roller. Andreas Arthurrson used the TFS 235's to go 6's in the 1/4 mile. Anthony Peck used the TFS 235's to go 5.teens in true street and many many other success stories with the TFS heads. Looks don't always mean everything, but Ai does have some pretty CNC work.
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So if for some reason you guys modified some TFS heads would that make them "Tick Flow"?
I guess it would!!!
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Those 232s look great. Im in for results.
Ready to do the same to yours Matt?!?!?! I know I am!
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How will those 232's perform on a 403???
I would have to say they'd perform very well. Whenever you can increase CFM with the same size valve at the same given valve lift, velocity will always increase. FPS in the port IMO is critical to good torque production.

I've added a set of Mast medium bore 256cc cylinder heads. They utilize a 2.165" intake valve and a 1.600" exhaust. I'll include flow numbers from the Mast website below the pictures.


















Flow Data w/4.000" Bore Plate
Lift Intake Exhaust
0.100 74 61
0.200 146 119
0.300 222 188
0.400 282 219
0.500 330 236
0.600 360 251
0.700 372 260



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