Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Tips and Tricks for H + C + I install

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-11-2013, 09:44 AM
  #1  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
 
WS6ICK2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Tips and Tricks for H + C + I install

Hey Everyone,
Not sure if this should go here or in the general section, but this will be my first heads, cam, intake build on my basic bolt on 2000 LS1. With that being said I have a 2 post lift at my home, that I plan on using for the install.

With access to the lift I plan on dropping everything from the bottom just to make things simpler. Other than what is listed on ls1 How To what other tips for success should I follow that you would recommend?

I know ls1 how to... is great its just some members have complained about damaging the threads on the crank using that method, and I don't want to follow, any updated info would be great.

Anything to save money, headache, and preventing me from damaging my engine would be greatly appreciated. And as always thanks in advance.
Old 04-11-2013, 09:56 AM
  #2  
Launching!
iTrader: (32)
 
pauls99z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Hinesville, Ga
Posts: 295
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I purchased a balancer install tool from coloradospeed.
Heres a link: http://www.coloradospeed.com/hawk-ls...0std6u00pnrnj6

Also you can get a longer bolt for the crank to install. I dont know the exact length maybe someone else could chime in on the length of that bolt..
Old 04-11-2013, 10:18 AM
  #3  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (7)
 
BrntWS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Land of the FOID
Posts: 2,005
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 10 Posts

Default

That would be nice working on the engine out of the car...your knuckles will thank you. What I did that helped me out a lot was label all the bolts in separate zip lock baggies and put everything I took off in plastic totes. I also spent a lot of time cleaning out the bolt holes for the heads....that's what worried me the most. I probably took 20 minutes per hole.
Old 04-11-2013, 11:42 AM
  #4  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (19)
 
Troy5061's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Maine
Posts: 443
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

You can get a balancer install tool off a member on here named Hiltsy855 for $20 shipped. He has an ad in the classified section. I taped a piece of steel brake line on the end of my blow gun to blow out the head bolt holes, this makes the cleanup time very quick. I did mine in the car, it wasn't too bad but if you are using OEM stretch head bolts it may be a little difficult to torque the bolts and get the correct angle, I used ARP bolts so I just had to torque them. I would also suggest a good torque wrench at least for doing the heads, a buddy in our shop let me use is digital Snap On one as I didn't trust my cheap one from the peoples republic. The one I used was nice too if you are going to use the oem bolts because it will tell you angle degrees and allow you to ratchet it and still maintain the correct angle.
Old 04-11-2013, 02:44 PM
  #5  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
 
WS6ICK2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Great information guys definitely appreciated keep it coming. Im sure this thread will help out others on here as well.
Old 04-11-2013, 04:21 PM
  #6  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (20)
 
03Sssnake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: H-Town/Cypress
Posts: 1,000
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I am in the middle of one right now, just take your time (pulled the T-Rex, installing F13 and 243 heads). I have the new cam in, melling pump and new chain installed. Engine deck is cleaned, just gotta chase those head bolt holes a few more times, it is tedious and critical to take your time there. I used my air blow gun to get the water out of the holes, just don't hit a water jacket!I also did twisted shop towel trick to go down the hole. Lastly chased with an old head bolt that was ground down on two sides. Hope to have the heads on tomorrow.







Good DIY write up cylinder head install

Last edited by 03Sssnake; 04-11-2013 at 05:08 PM.
Old 04-11-2013, 11:33 PM
  #7  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
LilJayV10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Evansville,IN
Posts: 9,309
Received 857 Likes on 610 Posts

Default

Be careful with the O ring on the oil pump(if you are replacing it)make sure you use lots of lube and make sure you are using the correct o ring.

Double and triple check to make sure your head bolts holes are clean as others have mentioned. ARP sells a LS specific tap/thread chaser to clean the holes out. There have been many of people on here that have holes in the side of their blocks because they didn't take enough time to clean the head bolt holes out. It's not like a GEN I SBC where the head bolts go through the block into a water jacket.

Make sure you use the correct fasteners for the cam plate, don't install the cam plate dry. Use some blue loctite on the cam plate bolts as with the bolts for the timing gear to the cam.

If you are using a double roller timing chain check your clearance with the timing cover and oil pump.

If you take the oil pan off align it correctly when installing it.

Check pushrod length don't guess.

Make sure your install height is set properly. Your camshaft lift and which springs you are using will dictate what it is.

Sounds like you are good to go on not using the old bolt to pull the balancer on.

That's all I can think of now.
Old 04-12-2013, 12:23 AM
  #8  
Launching!
iTrader: (6)
 
GREENMILE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 291
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by pauls99z28
I purchased a balancer install tool from coloradospeed.
Heres a link: http://www.coloradospeed.com/hawk-ls...0std6u00pnrnj6

Also you can get a longer bolt for the crank to install. I dont know the exact length maybe someone else could chime in on the length of that bolt..
freind of mine told me he uses a ls7 crank bolt to install the crank pulley on his truck pretty sure it would be the same on a ls1
Old 04-12-2013, 12:43 AM
  #9  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
LilJayV10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Evansville,IN
Posts: 9,309
Received 857 Likes on 610 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by GREENMILE
freind of mine told me he uses a ls7 crank bolt to install the crank pulley on his truck pretty sure it would be the same on a ls1
Old 04-12-2013, 01:05 AM
  #10  
Launching!
iTrader: (6)
 
GREENMILE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 291
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by LilJayV10

nice...
Old 04-12-2013, 01:13 AM
  #11  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (39)
 
LilJayV10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Evansville,IN
Posts: 9,309
Received 857 Likes on 610 Posts

Default

I'm sorry. I know people use bolts to pull the balancer on but it's just not a good idea especially when you can get the tool for cheap now. People are going to do what they want to do. I just hate to see them suggest things to someone doing this for the first time with such a high risk of something going wrong.

:off soap box:
Old 04-12-2013, 01:23 AM
  #12  
Launching!
iTrader: (6)
 
GREENMILE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 291
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

no problem just figured it would be a cheap $ tool. but yea for a 1st timer it would be best to go for an actual balancer tool. no sense of making short cuts.
Old 04-12-2013, 05:16 AM
  #13  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (37)
 
JRENIGAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: 72396
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Go to the hardware store and buy a piece of all thread, a nut and washer and make your own like I did. Nice...
Old 04-12-2013, 07:25 AM
  #14  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
 
WS6ICK2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 03Sssnake
I am in the middle of one right now, just take your time (pulled the T-Rex, installing F13 and 243 heads). I have the new cam in, melling pump and new chain installed. Engine deck is cleaned, just gotta chase those head bolt holes a few more times, it is tedious and critical to take your time there. I used my air blow gun to get the water out of the holes, just don't hit a water jacket!I also did twisted shop towel trick to go down the hole. Lastly chased with an old head bolt that was ground down on two sides. Hope to have the heads on tomorrow.







Good DIY write up cylinder head install
Looking good keep us posted and thanks for the info.



Quick Reply: Tips and Tricks for H + C + I install



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:52 AM.