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Old 07-20-2013, 01:27 PM
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Here in the next few weeks I will be pulling the trigger on a head/cam setup for my M6 T/A. Its my daily driver but doesn't see much stop and go traffic so driveability isn't a huge concern for me. My main goals are to rape on the new mustang 5.slows and make above 440rwhp and 400rwtq. My car will never see the track and the majority of the races it sees are from a roll either 35mph or 45mph.

The two combos I have been looking at are the Vengance racing combo with the TFS as cast 220cc heads and either the vrx4/5 cam. Or the TSP Stage 2.5 5.3 heads and ms3 cam. Thoughts pros or cons?

My current set up
Fast 78...will be opened and ported at time of head install
TSP 1/78 LT's and ORY
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stock 3.42's
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TFS 220 and vrx5 from the choices above.
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are you looking at the vengeance racing kit with the complete valve train set up ?
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ive got the 2.5 5.3 heads and ms3 cam and I LOVE IT its very streetable dont let anybody tell u different its all in who tunes it, i made 503 to the wheels with those heads and cam with the fast 102/102 and underdrive pully B4 i forged my bottom end
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Yea I'd go for the aftermarket heads for sure...
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Either one of those combos would do the trick. I guess it boils down to price and how much you can spend
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A.I. Ported 243s and a Tick Cam...
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AFR 215 or TFS 215 with custom cam
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Originally Posted by garygnu
are you looking at the vengeance racing kit with the complete valve train set up ?
Yeah im looking at the complete kit when all is said and done the vengeance kit will end up costing about $1,000 more dollars than the prc/ms3 setup and if both setup ups preform similarly on the street im leaning towards the tsp setup. I am also under the impression that the prc heads come with stainless steel mahle valves and the tfs 220's dont.
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Hey DEFYANT are u located in Oklahoma cuz all my buddies have that same sticker on their cars..
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Originally Posted by FreebirdWS6
ive got the 2.5 5.3 heads and ms3 cam and I LOVE IT its very streetable dont let anybody tell u different its all in who tunes it, i made 503 to the wheels with those heads and cam with the fast 102/102 and underdrive pully B4 i forged my bottom end
Just so the OP knows that is not normal by any means. I would credit that number to a really generous dyno. That combo is more of a 450rwhp combo. No taking anything away from your setup just putting it out there.

If I was staying n/a id go with the TFS heads and vrx5 as well. At least down the road if you decide to throw boost at it you'll have more of an advantage with the aftermarket head.
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Look at the PRC As cast aftermarket casting heads. They have been proven to make big power & flow a good bit more air than your other two options. We've seen guys report back making 500rwhp with them as cast!!
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Shiftslow, I saw your location.. My home town is Corpus Christi: I am down there two or three times a year for vacation

Regarding heads, I am going with the As Cast 225 CC heads from Tick with milled 60CC chambers along with a Tick SNS Stage 2 cam: should make great power and torque. Give Martin a call at Tick and he will get you hooked up!

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Looks good ill be giving yall a call to set up a head/cam package to fit my budget and needs.
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whats your budget ?I like the TSP cast heads ,TSP prc heads can use stock GM rockers .get the best head you can afford .
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
Just so the OP knows that is not normal by any means. I would credit that number to a really generous dyno. That combo is more of a 450rwhp combo. No taking anything away from your setup just putting it out there.

If I was staying n/a id go with the TFS heads and vrx5 as well. At least down the road if you decide to throw boost at it you'll have more of an advantage with the aftermarket head.
i know that is not normal for that kinda power but those heads help more than people think,they bumped my compression up quite a bit and as far as the dyno tuners, they have no reason to pimp up my car more than it is
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Originally Posted by garygnu
whats your budget ?I like the TSP cast heads ,TSP prc heads can use stock GM rockers .get the best head you can afford .
Thats what im leaning towards I have $2100 to put towards my car as of right now I have big bills coming up for the next three weeks so now is the time. That pretty much narrows things down to the prc 5.3 heads unless i wait another month and get some trickflows or the prc's that where mentioned above. From what im reading a lot of people are pleased with the ms3 5.3 combo for the price.
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Looking at the Tick website he has the prc 5.3 heads fully assembled for $1300 shipped to my door thats hard to beat free shipping and tax free would save me about $150!


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