Clean block threads for the heads - tap extension???
#1
Clean block threads for the heads - tap extension???
Hey guys,
I need to clean out the threads on my block for my heads, and the threads are way down there... Has anyone found or made (an extension) to get a tap all the way to the bottom threads?
I have the ARP bolts and they are very unforgiving on any trash.
Any help appreciated!
I need to clean out the threads on my block for my heads, and the threads are way down there... Has anyone found or made (an extension) to get a tap all the way to the bottom threads?
I have the ARP bolts and they are very unforgiving on any trash.
Any help appreciated!
#2
Super Hulk Smash
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Take an old head bolt and cut the threads off on one side. Then you can use it to pull trash out.
Also, take a clean lint free rag or (gasp a paper towel) and roll it tightly to get into the threads. It'll take a while, but do that to get out any coolant or oil.
Once that's done, you can take the old bolt and remove debris.
Then use air to blow out any remaining crap.
Also, take a clean lint free rag or (gasp a paper towel) and roll it tightly to get into the threads. It'll take a while, but do that to get out any coolant or oil.
Once that's done, you can take the old bolt and remove debris.
Then use air to blow out any remaining crap.
#3
Take an old head bolt and cut the threads off on one side. Then you can use it to pull trash out.
Also, take a clean lint free rag or (gasp a paper towel) and roll it tightly to get into the threads. It'll take a while, but do that to get out any coolant or oil.
Once that's done, you can take the old bolt and remove debris.
Then use air to blow out any remaining crap.
Also, take a clean lint free rag or (gasp a paper towel) and roll it tightly to get into the threads. It'll take a while, but do that to get out any coolant or oil.
Once that's done, you can take the old bolt and remove debris.
Then use air to blow out any remaining crap.
Wouldn't have thought of taking the threads off one side of a old bolt to clean it... But I can see how that would work. Sounds like you've done this before.
#7
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Here you go: (Big bolts) http://www.summitracing.com/parts/arp-912-0011
(Little bolts): http://www.summitracing.com/parts/arp-912-0001
(Little bolts): http://www.summitracing.com/parts/arp-912-0001
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#8
Don't use a tap, don't cut a bolt and use it as a chase. BUY THE CORRECT TOOL!
Is your block valued enough to to you to spend $40 on the ARP tool? No risk of damaging the threads or messing the block up. The tool is designed to clean the threads and it works awesome. It's worth every penny and does have good re-sale value.
#9
TOTALLY back up what they said about not using a tap. There are undersized taps as well as chaser taps to do this very thing just whatever you do
Do some pre-soak with a good penetrating oil
Dont force it... if it feels wrong it probably is!
Before you buy the ARP tool try asking your local hardware store for chaser taps/undersize taps. Most of the time places that supply to machine shops will have exactly what you are looking for.
Take your time! and make sure you clean REALLY good after.
Do some pre-soak with a good penetrating oil
Dont force it... if it feels wrong it probably is!
Before you buy the ARP tool try asking your local hardware store for chaser taps/undersize taps. Most of the time places that supply to machine shops will have exactly what you are looking for.
Take your time! and make sure you clean REALLY good after.
#10
Super Hulk Smash
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Listen to this guy ^^
Don't use a tap, don't cut a bolt and use it as a chase. BUY THE CORRECT TOOL!
Is your block valued enough to to you to spend $40 on the ARP tool? No risk of damaging the threads or messing the block up. The tool is designed to clean the threads and it works awesome. It's worth every penny and does have good re-sale value.
Don't use a tap, don't cut a bolt and use it as a chase. BUY THE CORRECT TOOL!
Is your block valued enough to to you to spend $40 on the ARP tool? No risk of damaging the threads or messing the block up. The tool is designed to clean the threads and it works awesome. It's worth every penny and does have good re-sale value.
#12
Also the ARP tool is not simply a bolt with the sides ground down. It is slightly over sized and shaped to actually clean the threads. I have used both methods and even after several passes with the bolt, the studs would not go right in. (I was trying to be cheap and not purchase the 8mm chaser). In the end I did buy it. I used studs on my engine and after using the ARP chaser the studs went right in with no force or tools. I ended up selling both tools and only $10-$15 out of my pocket. It's a no brainer in my opinion. Does the OP want to do it right? Or good enough? Engines are too expensive to cut corners to easy solutions.
Last edited by badazz81z28; 08-14-2013 at 02:45 PM.
#13
Gun cleaning rod with a wire/plastic brush. Worked great for me. 12ga is a little too much, but the .40 or .45 should work great. I used one close to the size of a .45. Stick it down and brush all the crap out and then use air to blow it out when completed.
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The thread chasers are definitely worth it, Ive used mine several times. You can find them a bit cheaper. Heres where I got mine
https://www.mdrtuning.com/ls1-ls6-he...leaning-chaser
https://www.mdrtuning.com/ls1-ls6-he...leaning-chaser
#15
I def would NOT do this on an Aluminum block!
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As much as I hate to say it, you really need to use the ARP tool. I ground down an old head bolt and made a perfect chaser, ran it through each hole twice, then when I tried to put one of the new bolts in it was impossible to go past 1 or 2 threads by hand.
I mic'd up the bolts and saw the diameter of the threads on the ARP bolts were .005 wider then the stock bolt. So I gave in and ordered the ARP tool and that was .004 bigger then the ARP bolts (.009 bigger then the "chaser" made out of an old head bolt).
Also FWIW I still had to run that ARP tool through each hole at least twice before I stopped getting thread cheese out of them...
I mic'd up the bolts and saw the diameter of the threads on the ARP bolts were .005 wider then the stock bolt. So I gave in and ordered the ARP tool and that was .004 bigger then the ARP bolts (.009 bigger then the "chaser" made out of an old head bolt).
Also FWIW I still had to run that ARP tool through each hole at least twice before I stopped getting thread cheese out of them...