AndersonsSS01

As it states in the title i was wondering how high i can take the stock bottom end of my 01 ss. I am in the process of doing a sns stage 3 cam from tick along with push rods, valve springs, lifters, oil pump, and timing chain. I have been told that i should be fine revving it to 7 or 7200 but that sounds a little iffy to me, but i want to be able to get the full potential out of the cam. I was going to put some arp rod bolts in as well but someone told me that i have a better chance of bearing failure if i do that do the the clamping force that those bolts have which im not sure about either. Anyone with some personal experience here would be great, or any input at all for that matter.

Thanks

td1168

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I can tell you that putting the arp rod bolts in your rods will distort the bores. I would never swap rod bolts out without being able to check the rods for being out of round. If you change your rod bolts you need to have the big end bores checked. I think 6800 rpm's is about as high as I would go on the stock rod bolts in your 01 ls1.

AndersonsSS01

so u think i would be better off just leaving the rods how they are untill later when i decide to put in different internals?

td1168

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Are you rebuilding the engine? If so then yes I would change the rod bolts and have the big ends checked for roundness. If you are just doing the cam install in the car I would leave the rods alone. Katech claims that there rod bolts don't distort the bores but I have no experience with the Katechs.

AndersonsSS01

No i wasn't planning on it the car/motor only have 61000 on them so i guess i will just leave them alone unless someone else has some input on the katechs

schreurs1

We used to run a 5.3 in one of our sprint cars and turned 7400 on a stock 5.3 with rod bolts and a cam on methanol.

2muchboostNY

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Impressive! What was the longevity of the setup?

dr_whigham

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I've never taken mine higher than 6800. Suggestion from Geoff as well.

PREDATOR-Z

7200 would be outside that cams power range and will not yield faster/quicker results.
Where to shift is done by keeping the highest average hp between shifts, going just to 7200 does not mean extra power.
You guys need to come down from this desire to overev a V8 like that for the hell of it. Otherwise stick to imports...

schreurs1

We never freshened it while we had it and we ran it for 3 years and probably 60 shows. Granted circle track is a bit different than on the street as we wanted it to be in the meat of the power coming off the corner. Predator-Z is correct, spinning em that high is just making noise.

2muchboostNY

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Agreed that higher revs/rpms does not = more power or usable power.

Thanks Schreurs.......thats still very impressive especially as you mentioned, you were staying in the "power range" most of the time.

MX6.0

It's not always about more power. Sometimes an extra shift isn't worth the time.

I have an import and an LS, does that mean I can overrev it?

Sales@Tick

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From all the other set-ups that utilize this camshaft, they don't even peak until 6400-6500rpm.

Shift it at least 6800rpm, but 7000rpm would IMO return a faster E.T. and MPH at the track. You won't know if it's faster there until you try it at the track several times.

inssanity21

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This will give you an idea of that cams powerband. My rev limiter is at 6800

dr_whigham

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I've never taken mine over 66-6700 or so. After going back and looking at my graph, I kinda wish we at least "tried" a pull to 7 or 7200 just to see where power fell off.

Here's mine as an example

Sales@Tick

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A Fast 102 intake has a smaller runner entry than a stock OEM intake. This is why they boost mid-range torque so well. If you look at the white Z06 in the Tick cam thread in this section his peaks at 6500rpm and hasn't begun to even roll over yet.

If the OP ends up using an OEM intake I'd shift it at 7000rpm, but if he goes with an aftermarket plastic OEM 'style' intake he may be better off shifting at 6800rpm.

inssanity21

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I saw that and now it makes me wish I went with a 102 over the 92, maybe after the new rear end goes in!

Sales@Tick

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The 92 does a pretty good job as well. In fact I feel the 92 does a better job at this IMO, but I have not tested either intake back to back or even on the same car to see any type of truth to this.

That said, the combo's we do with Fast 92's versus identical combo's with Fast 102's, the 92's seem to make more power.

dr_whigham

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Glad I went with a 92 myself...

96capricemgr

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The most elementary of understandings of the subject would tell you that a 5.3l is easier on the rodbolts because the smaller bore piston weighs less and piston weight is a HUGE factor in rod bolt load.