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Old 10-07-2014, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ImprovedRacing
We'll post up with pics as soon as they're ready!

The new scraper will be designed for:
- 4.000" stroke with aftermarket rods
- ARP main studs
- ARP rod bolts


We will continue to make a scraper for the 3.622" stroke factory bottom end. Does anyone see a need for a scraper for the factory 3.622" stroke with ARP studs and rod bolts?
I see the need for factory stroke and ARP studs and Rod Bolt's.
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Ordered mine! Will file down for ARP rod bolts Came in yesterday, everything looks top notch! Crank scraper and baffle
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Originally Posted by ImprovedRacing
We'll post up with pics as soon as they're ready!

The new scraper will be designed for:
- 4.000" stroke with aftermarket rods
- ARP main studs
- ARP rod bolts


We will continue to make a scraper for the 3.622" stroke factory bottom end. Does anyone see a need for a scraper for the factory 3.622" stroke with ARP studs and rod bolts?
Ill pick one of those up
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So you say you need to file away material on aftermarket cranks, what is the ideal clearance on these?
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Is the 4.0 inch stroke scraper ready yet?

I went to the web site and didn't see it.
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Originally Posted by maroonls1z
So you say you need to file away material on aftermarket cranks, what is the ideal clearance on these?
0.040" +/- 0.020" is what we shoot for. You can use feeler gauges to check the clearances.
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Originally Posted by ss performance
Is the 4.0 inch stroke scraper ready yet?

I went to the web site and didn't see it.
Not yet, we are still waiting on a few parts for test fitment. We will get it out as soon as we can.
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I'd want to see stock stroke with forged rods and ARP bolts. For a lot of FI builds, guys run either the 5.3 or 6L iron block with the stock crank and h-beam rods and it's a good combo. I don't know if the ARP main studs are a requirement.
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I bought a crank scraper from Improved Racing that is being installed in 4.0" stroke application. I will start another thread to show what is required to fit for those who can't wait.
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In for results on one of these... I don't have the pan on my 370 yet, debating on whether or not one of these would be worth throwing on.

Any downsides to running one of these? My setup is more street-oriented.
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
I'd want to see stock stroke with forged rods and ARP bolts. For a lot of FI builds, guys run either the 5.3 or 6L iron block with the stock crank and h-beam rods and it's a good combo. I don't know if the ARP main studs are a requirement.
I have stock LS1 rods with ARP bolts. I had to add VERY minor clearance, I probably could have gotten away with it if I had pushed the scraper over to the passenger side as I torqued it down, but it was just too close for comfort. Here is a picture of mine.






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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
I'd want to see stock stroke with forged rods and ARP bolts. For a lot of FI builds, guys run either the 5.3 or 6L iron block with the stock crank and h-beam rods and it's a good combo. I don't know if the ARP main studs are a requirement.
Are those guys also running forged crank shafts, or are they running the factory crank shaft? Forged or aftermarket crank shafts, even if they are the same stroke, will likely require a different scraper (which is why our scrapers don't fit the LSA).

ARP main studs also require a completely different scraper because the studs are bigger than factory, so all of the holes have to be larger. They are also slightly taller, which will affect the geometry of the scraper a little if we want to maintain the same clearances for maximum performance.
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Originally Posted by Inflame
I have stock LS1 rods with ARP bolts. I had to add VERY minor clearance, I probably could have gotten away with it if I had pushed the scraper over to the passenger side as I torqued it down, but it was just too close for comfort. Here is a picture of mine.
Awesome, thanks for posting the pics! We got a set of ARP rod bolts and we will be updating our scraper to add that little bit of extra clearance. That amount shouldn't hinder performance significantly if using factory bolts, either.
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Originally Posted by ImprovedRacing
Awesome, thanks for posting the pics! We got a set of ARP rod bolts and we will be updating our scraper to add that little bit of extra clearance. That amount shouldn't hinder performance significantly if using factory bolts, either.
Thanks so much!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 1FastBrick
I see the need for factory stroke and ARP studs and Rod Bolt's.
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Originally Posted by ImprovedRacing
We will continue to make a scraper for the 3.622" stroke factory bottom end. Does anyone see a need for a scraper for the factory 3.622" stroke with ARP studs and rod bolts?
Yes please. Forged bottom end on factory stroke with arp studs / bolts here.

I'm not afraid of drilling a couple holes if you don't plan on releasing one though. Let us know.
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Originally Posted by ckpitt55
Yes please. Forged bottom end on factory stroke with arp studs / bolts here.

I'm not afraid of drilling a couple holes if you don't plan on releasing one though. Let us know.
To clarify, are you using the factory crankshaft or aftermarket? Even if it's the same stroke, a forged crank will require a different scraper than the factory crank.
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Factory crank at stock stroke. Anyone who spends the additional money on a forged crank is getting more cubes. But the stock crank is plenty strong for most sub 1k HP builds when used with quality rods.
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Originally Posted by ImprovedRacing
To clarify, are you using the factory crankshaft or aftermarket? Even if it's the same stroke, a forged crank will require a different scraper than the factory crank.
Factory crank, aftermarket rods

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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
Factory crank at stock stroke. Anyone who spends the additional money on a forged crank is getting more cubes. But the stock crank is plenty strong for most sub 1k HP builds when used with quality rods.
Okay cool, thanks guys.
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