Best performing cam for drag strip with stock heads?
05-20-2004, 08:12 PM
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Best performing cam for drag strip with stock heads? I will be removing my 224/.581/112 cam soon and I need to decide on a cam. Most of my mods are in the sig., but will be going with more stall and 12 bolt with 3.90 gears. I want to put a cam in that is going to do wonders at the track. I dont drive the car very much anymore on the street, only to local car meet ups every so often, and to and from the track. What do you recommend? More than likely I will be doing the Patriot spring package with my new cam. Thanks.
05-20-2004, 09:17 PM
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Ive seen a couple of board members do really good with that particular cam, but then again, they have really extreme setups. But Ive also heard that its more of a horsepower cam vs. a torque cam. I mean...it shows for itself with the numbers it puts out. Crazy hp, yet decent tq numbers. My particular cam put out some incredible hp numbers as well, but not so much on the tq side. 52 rwhp gain and 23 rwtq.
05-21-2004, 04:02 PM
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The X3 is a little more extreme and favors higher rpms. The X2 would be perfect if you wanted it for mainly street use with the occasional trip the the track.
05-21-2004, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon98TA
The X2 would be perfect if you wanted it for mainly street use with the occasional trip the the track.
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05-21-2004, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
T-Rex is definitly a dyno queen, but on average has poor times at the strip (Lack of torq down low).
With stock heads I would go with a "reverse Split cam"
With stock heads I would go with a "reverse Split cam"
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05-21-2004, 09:41 PM
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i laugh harder every day when you guys say that the trex dont produce enough low end torque to give you good track times.
correct me if im wrong but 01z holds the cam only 6-speed record for now with a 1.53 or so 60ft right. well with stock shocks, swaybar and springs i went a wheel pulling 1.501 pushing over 400 more lbs. only launching at 5900-6000 rpms cause thats all the tires would hold in that nasty weather. guess the torque sucks right.
everyone on here always says dyno number mean nothing right. yet yall keep going back to them for bashing. take your own advice that you guys tell everyone, ignore the numbers, take it to the track.
correct me if im wrong but 01z holds the cam only 6-speed record for now with a 1.53 or so 60ft right. well with stock shocks, swaybar and springs i went a wheel pulling 1.501 pushing over 400 more lbs. only launching at 5900-6000 rpms cause thats all the tires would hold in that nasty weather. guess the torque sucks right.
everyone on here always says dyno number mean nothing right. yet yall keep going back to them for bashing. take your own advice that you guys tell everyone, ignore the numbers, take it to the track.
05-22-2004, 04:09 PM
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The T-Rex IS a high RPM cam (and a damn fine one at that!) I'm NOT knocking it. I just think that many people are mis-using it and wondering why the results are less than spectacular. That's all anyone is really saying. Just look at the setups that work well with it (BIG converter and alot of gearing.) Put a T-rex in a car with 3.23 gears and a 3800 stall and see what happens. Or do it in an M6 car with stock gears. And to make matters worse, set the rev limiter at 7000. 
It's not the cam's fault that it was used incorrectly but you'll still end up with some folks saying that it's a dyno queen. It's not, but you gotta understand what it does well and where it does it. Then build the car around this idea. However, be warned that if you do this RIGHT then you're going to end up with a car that most would consider to be a really bad idea for a daily driver (a 5000stall and 4.88 gears aren't so great for day to day driving in most people's opinions.) So IMO, a large percentage of T-rex buyers would actually be alot better off with a more reasonable cam.
Low 11s can be done cam only with 224 cams...or even stock cams if you try hard enough. Point being, you have to take into consideration the rest of the setup before deciding to yourself just how impressed you are.
It's not the cam's fault that it was used incorrectly but you'll still end up with some folks saying that it's a dyno queen. It's not, but you gotta understand what it does well and where it does it. Then build the car around this idea. However, be warned that if you do this RIGHT then you're going to end up with a car that most would consider to be a really bad idea for a daily driver (a 5000stall and 4.88 gears aren't so great for day to day driving in most people's opinions.) So IMO, a large percentage of T-rex buyers would actually be alot better off with a more reasonable cam. Low 11s can be done cam only with 224 cams...or even stock cams if you try hard enough. Point being, you have to take into consideration the rest of the setup before deciding to yourself just how impressed you are.
05-22-2004, 04:22 PM
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I'm running a large AMS Racing custom grind cam. I've ran a best of 7.02@96 in the 1/8 mile. I'm still running 3:42 gears and ET streets. Wt was around 3375lbs.
05-22-2004, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Colonel
The T-Rex IS a high RPM cam (and a damn fine one at that!) I'm NOT knocking it. I just think that many people are mis-using it and wondering why the results are less than spectacular. That's all anyone is really saying. Just look at the setups that work well with it (BIG converter and alot of gearing.) Put a T-rex in a car with 3.23 gears and a 3800 stall and see what happens. Or do it in an M6 car with stock gears. And to make matters worse, set the rev limiter at 7000. It's not the cam's fault that it was used incorrectly but you'll still end up with some folks saying that it's a dyno queen. It's not, but you gotta understand what it does well and where it does it. Then build the car around this idea. However, be warned that if you do this RIGHT then you're going to end up with a car that most would consider to be a really bad idea for a daily driver (a 5000stall and 4.88 gears aren't so great for day to day driving in most people's opinions.) So IMO, a large percentage of T-rex buyers would actually be alot better off with a more reasonable cam.
Low 11s can be done cam only with 224 cams...or even stock cams if you try hard enough. Point being, you have to take into consideration the rest of the setup before deciding to yourself just how impressed you are.
It's not the cam's fault that it was used incorrectly but you'll still end up with some folks saying that it's a dyno queen. It's not, but you gotta understand what it does well and where it does it. Then build the car around this idea. However, be warned that if you do this RIGHT then you're going to end up with a car that most would consider to be a really bad idea for a daily driver (a 5000stall and 4.88 gears aren't so great for day to day driving in most people's opinions.) So IMO, a large percentage of T-rex buyers would actually be alot better off with a more reasonable cam. Low 11s can be done cam only with 224 cams...or even stock cams if you try hard enough. Point being, you have to take into consideration the rest of the setup before deciding to yourself just how impressed you are.
but it will never feel like a 220 cam so if thats what you are after then look elsewhere.
most of the low 11's cam only cars i know of are autos, especially with a 224 or smaller cam. and definatly dont know of any low 11 sec m6's on stock cams. just a few auto, which is partialy from pushing them to the limits and another part from having above average power levels on stock motors. some couldnt do it if they tried everything, motors just arent as strong. dont know about you but i think it is damn awsome to have a cam that with push a properly setup bolton car deep into h/c territory.10's
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05-23-2004, 06:03 PM
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The G5X-2, custom AMS grind, and the T-rex are the only cams that have come about because most of this thread has talked about the T-rex. 
Does anyone have a particular cam that they recommend while giving reason behind it, not just what others have ran with it. Would I be looking for a cam that puts out lots of torque, yet decent amount of hp, a cam that has equal amounts, or one that has more hp than torque. It doesnt matter whos cam it is, I just want a cam thats going to put down the numbers at the track. So far from just looking around, searching threads, paying attention to members signatures, etc. Ive seen T-rexs, G5X-2s, TSPs 231/237, and...I believe thats it. Anyhow, let me know what you think. Thanks.
Does anyone have a particular cam that they recommend while giving reason behind it, not just what others have ran with it. Would I be looking for a cam that puts out lots of torque, yet decent amount of hp, a cam that has equal amounts, or one that has more hp than torque. It doesnt matter whos cam it is, I just want a cam thats going to put down the numbers at the track. So far from just looking around, searching threads, paying attention to members signatures, etc. Ive seen T-rexs, G5X-2s, TSPs 231/237, and...I believe thats it. Anyhow, let me know what you think. Thanks. 
05-23-2004, 07:23 PM
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you prolly should just call LG and talk turkey with the man himself. the G5X-2 is suppossedly putting down 465 rwhp on stock heads. I don't recall what other mods he did, but that's damned impressive in anyones book for 'stock heads'.
(and don't flame me if it was only 462.5 rwhp, I'm 6 beers into the wind right now)
(and don't flame me if it was only 462.5 rwhp, I'm 6 beers into the wind right now)