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Old 02-03-2016, 02:08 PM
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Nothing quite looks as good as fresh machine work.

Very nice to see this one come together!
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Deck bridge is on order. I thought I had one, but I was mistaken. Have 2 dial indicators too, I am taking your word for it on this!

Yep, all we both lack is finishing
Lol. Good. I ended up with .036 gaskets. I will double check clearances when I put the heads on but should be good to go!
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Nothing quite looks as good as fresh machine work.

Very nice to see this one come together!
Agreed!! I love how clean everything looks when its fresh.
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Not wasting anytime here. Rear cover is on. Since I don't have the alignment tool, here is checking to make sure it is lined up with no more than a .020 gap on both sides between the cover and the block. I couldn't fit more than a .01 feeler gauge on either side, so called it good and tightened it down.
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Cam all cleaned up, and coated in assembly lube ready to slide in.
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Cam in, timing chain and timing chain damper installed, blue loc-tited, and torqued to spec.
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Lined up dot to dot, ready to degree it and make sure all looks good.
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This beauty showed up today as well, time to get it painted and swapped in!!
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Old 02-05-2016, 08:32 AM
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Final shipments arrived yesterday! Now its all up to me to get it put together.

6LE seats with factory inserts
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Mamo ported FAST 102
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YT 10mm rockers
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Checking deck height. My pistons were slightly recessed in the hole. Tony is going with .030 gaskets.
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I disassembled the intake and drilled the hole for my MAP. Then began assembly of the intake components, and ran into an issue with the fuel rails not fitting. Just waiting for a reaponse back from Tony on this one.
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Looks like it's coming together nicely! That's strange with the fuel rail, I've never seen that happen before.

Those seats look pretty nice... I might have to look at getting a set. I sill want to maintain the electronic controls though...
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Originally Posted by 5_litre_eater
Looks like it's coming together nicely! That's strange with the fuel rail, I've never seen that happen before.

Those seats look pretty nice... I might have to look at getting a set. I sill want to maintain the electronic controls though...
Thanks. Masking off the block to paint it as we speak. The fuel rail is odd. Tony isnt sure either. I feel like it got bent or is a mfg defect. The seats are great. I believe you can keep the electonic controls, there is a write up for it somewhere.
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I like the seats a lot. They will be more comfy than mine lol.

I thought the rails just needed spacers to sit on top of the intake?
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Looked at pics closer. I see what you're saying now. What do you have for the rest of your fuel system? I didn't see it in the build anywhere. Just curious.

I am thinking of painting my block too. What are you using to paint it and mask it off? I don't have good luck with taping stuff. I was thinking of using mastic tape to mask it off and see if that worked but I don't know
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Yeah, looking at the fuel rail pic again, and comparing it to mine, it looks like it got bent. Your tube that connects the two sides looks flatter than mine. I bet it got flattened somewhere along the line.
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Originally Posted by 98_WS6_M6
Looked at pics closer. I see what you're saying now. What do you have for the rest of your fuel system? I didn't see it in the build anywhere. Just curious.

I am thinking of painting my block too. What are you using to paint it and mask it off? I don't have good luck with taping stuff. I was thinking of using mastic tape to mask it off and see if that worked but I don't know
The fuel system is a single 255 with a hotwire kit and 42 lb injectors. They were already on the car from the cam only setup.

I taped it off, and am cutting around the tape to outline everything, and using masking paper from home depot to cover the big areas. Here it is last night, after about 2 hours of masking. You can see my make shift paint booth back behind it too. I am doing 4 coats of self etching primer, 4 coats of black high temp engine paint, and 4 coats of high temp clear. It should hold up.

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Originally Posted by 5_litre_eater
Yeah, looking at the fuel rail pic again, and comparing it to mine, it looks like it got bent. Your tube that connects the two sides looks flatter than mine. I bet it got flattened somewhere along the line.
I agree, the pics I have seen online have a bit more of a hump in the middle. Here is another shot that shows the alignment a bit clearer.

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Old 02-06-2016, 07:44 PM
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Block and driveshaft are painted!

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Did a little bit of play mock up just to get an idea of what its gonna look like.

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Looks really nice been following both of these Mamo build threads and both you guys have some very nice builds going. What is your final compression going to be with that head gasket? Also what timing chain set are you running?
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Originally Posted by welldonecj7
Looks really nice been following both of these Mamo build threads and both you guys have some very nice builds going. What is your final compression going to be with that head gasket? Also what timing chain set are you running?
Thanks man! We are shooting for about 11.7:1 on it. I am not sure of the brand, its the adjustable single roller set that Tony sells.
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Doing some more assembly. Checking the pan to pickup tube clearance. Ended up right around .270 after the gasket was compressed. I tweaked the pickup tube just a tad more to make sure i was well into the 1/4-3/8 tolerance. Also attached the front cover and oil pan. Just gotta check PtV, chase the threads, install the head studs, and heads are ready to go on!

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Damn that looks pretty! Nice job painting the block!
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Yeah it definitely does! I have to paint mine now lol. I just need to figure out how to clean it a little better so the paint doesn't peel first.

When you checked pickup tube clearance did you use .100 shims or just torque the gasket to spec? I need to do that next. And then do the P to V as well. I haven't done that before but seems easy enough.

With your fuel system. That's good to 600hp right? You should be real close and way over with the nitrous. Is that ok since you have the standalone fuel setup for the nitrous? I'm not too familiar with nitrous fuel systems yet but curious. I have 80# injectors in my car now and I had the twin in tank pumps before my new setup.
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Originally Posted by 5_litre_eater
Damn that looks pretty! Nice job painting the block!
Thanks!

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Yeah it definitely does! I have to paint mine now lol. I just need to figure out how to clean it a little better so the paint doesn't peel first.

When you checked pickup tube clearance did you use .100 shims or just torque the gasket to spec? I need to do that next. And then do the P to V as well. I haven't done that before but seems easy enough.

With your fuel system. That's good to 600hp right? You should be real close and way over with the nitrous. Is that ok since you have the standalone fuel setup for the nitrous? I'm not too familiar with nitrous fuel systems yet but curious. I have 80# injectors in my car now and I had the twin in tank pumps before my new setup.
It is worth the time it takes thats for sure! Brake cleaner and alcohol work great.

I used the compressed gasket to check the spacing. I am going to tweak it a tad more, I want to make sure there is no chance of oil starvation.

I will definitely be getting close to maxxing the fuel system. With the standalone, the motor won't rely at all on the tank or pump to feed it. C16 will spray from the tank everytime I hit the bottle.
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Been doing some more work. All brake components have been repainted, and all engine accesories have been given a nice coat of aluminum high temp paint, except for the alternator. Head bolt holes have been cleaned with ARP thread chasers, and head studs are in

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