AFR 205s on the way, What Cam to use?
06-15-2004, 06:05 PM
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AFR 205s on the way, What Cam to use? I have a 2001 C5, Vortex Ram Air, LGM LTs, Random cats and a tune. Have been researching the AFRs since October and finally have them ordered. I have spoke to 5 different cam "experts" and have 5 different cam recommendations. I want a clean exhaust (pass CA tailpipe), complete driveability (91 octane, 105 ambient temp with the A/C on) and be over 425rwhp.
My top four choices are:
220 220 115
222 222 114
224 224 114
224 228 115
There were other split and reverse split cams that only confused me more. I realize that these are new heads and will need some experienced tuners to work out the best configuration. Is there a safe bet now? Is there really that much difference between the choices?
Thanks for the advise
My top four choices are:
220 220 115
222 222 114
224 224 114
224 228 115
There were other split and reverse split cams that only confused me more. I realize that these are new heads and will need some experienced tuners to work out the best configuration. Is there a safe bet now? Is there really that much difference between the choices?
Thanks for the advise
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06-16-2004, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by J-Rod
Tony made 470ish with a 224/228 you may want to talk to him about his cam and who spec'd it...
That makes sense Jarrod...
....Get the entire combo figured out....
THEN have the cam designed for YOUR combo...
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06-16-2004, 12:12 PM
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Things that make you go Hmmmmmm.... 
And since Ed has about 50 lobes that spec out at .050 alone, I'd venture to say this MIGHT not be an off the shelf XE/XE-R lobe. And knowing how Ed's does his VE's I'd venture to say the rest of the cams specs might suprise you...
So yeah, again we are back to that whole idea of total package...
And since Ed has about 50 lobes that spec out at .050 alone, I'd venture to say this MIGHT not be an off the shelf XE/XE-R lobe. And knowing how Ed's does his VE's I'd venture to say the rest of the cams specs might suprise you...
So yeah, again we are back to that whole idea of total package...
06-16-2004, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cstraub
Hmmmm, Ed sells a ton of AFR. . . .Ed has some of the fastest AFR/EDC cammed 5.0 packages, Tony and Ed are tight. . . .wonder who did the cam. ..I call him friend.
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Except on those big block Chevy heads...
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06-16-2004, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 360
I would go 224 228 115 especially with the cats on the car. The added exhaust duration will help significantly.
06-16-2004, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Linear Velocity
No way that cam would pass CA emissions. The biggest cam you can go with out here and still pass the sniffer is the TR 224 on a 114 LSA, any bigger and it won't pass.
Having negative overlap is. There is more than one cam out there that will pass California emissions LSA will vary...
06-16-2004, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sscam68
I have to agree, Tony M's setup is putting down some GREAT power. It might be what your looking for, send him an email.
I know Tony specced three different cam designs just to get the best overall package with these new heads so just drop him a line...
You guys love this kind of data, so go straight to the source...
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06-16-2004, 01:57 PM
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This thread has a nice example of what I would call a mutual admiration society.
I say don't bother trying to get super fancy with custom spec'ing a cam with a lot of the known grinds out there folks can help you pic the springs and can later look at your dyno sheet and help out if there are problems.
224/224//114 stuff has very little overlap I think and has passed everywhere. A 224/224/114 cam will do at least 80% of what all the bigger cams will do. I am not sure if you can get a 224/228//115 you'd have to check on that.
I say don't bother trying to get super fancy with custom spec'ing a cam with a lot of the known grinds out there folks can help you pic the springs and can later look at your dyno sheet and help out if there are problems.
224/224//114 stuff has very little overlap I think and has passed everywhere. A 224/224/114 cam will do at least 80% of what all the bigger cams will do. I am not sure if you can get a 224/228//115 you'd have to check on that.
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Originally Posted by J-Rod
LSA isn't what helps you pass emissions.
Having negative overlap is. There is more than one cam out there that will pass California emissions LSA will vary...
Having negative overlap is. There is more than one cam out there that will pass California emissions LSA will vary...
Still doesn't change the that fact that anything over 224/224 114 won't pass California emissions. I should know, I live out here
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
This thread has a nice example of what I would call a mutual admiration society.
I say don't bother trying to get super fancy with custom spec'ing a cam with a lot of the known grinds out there folks can help you pic the springs and can later look at your dyno sheet and help out if there are problems.
These AFR heads are NOT the same head design as in the past so the camshaft designs will not be the typical "224*-224*-112*" bolt in that permiates through this site... They will require a different concept and new philosophies, unless you're happy with the same results as the rest...
224/224//114 stuff has very little overlap I think and has passed everywhere. A 224/224/114 cam will do at least 80% of what all the bigger cams will do. I am not sure if you can get a 224/228//115 you'd have to check on that.
BTW... Noodles says "Hi"...
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