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Old 01-23-2017, 08:04 AM
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My 02 z28 had a knock. So rebuilding for future turbo. Plan on 10 psi maybe a touch mor. Need advice on if any of this is over kill or to weak. Thanks for any advice. This took me forever to put together but here it is
diamond -8.6 dished pistons
forged 6.125 connecting rods(scat maybe)
arp rod bolts,main and head studs
ls6 valve springs
head gasket(not sure what brand)
60# seimen deka injectors
racetronix hotwire kit
king rod and main bearing
ls2 timing chain
​​​​​​​melling oil pump.
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For 10 PSI you could get away with pretty much anything.
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Hi Brandon, when you do this type of shopping it is wise.
You could follow my advice, get a 4.0" crankshaft upgrade for the same cost.

My "quote " $1700.00 FOB

The included items :
1. Forged 4.0" crankshaft @ 1850 BW (balanced)
2. Forged 6.125" rods with ARP bolts
3. Forged Racetec Pistons @ -5cc .003+ bore size.
4. NPR Steel Rings
5. King Race rod and main bearings.
6. Engine Balanced @ 3% "over"

The optional items :

1. My LS-2 timing chain with Chrome Steel links.
2. FelPro 1041 head gasket
3. GM 2010 Camaro Oil Pump.
4. My head studs.
5. My GM LS-1/2 Valve Spring kit. (EOM)
6. My Denso 650cc AC injectors. (long)

No need for the ARP Main Bolt upgrade.

Lance
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Get a me a qpte for everything. Will a 2010 oil pump work? Will a 4.00 stroke work on my 346 ls1? I have 241 heads. I want better than stock springs
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Also i would like to use my stock crankshaft.
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Originally Posted by Pantera EFI
Hi Brandon, when you do this type of shopping it is wise.
You could follow my advice, get a 4.0" crankshaft upgrade for the same cost.

My "quote " $1700.00 FOB

The included items :
1. Forged 4.0" crankshaft @ 1850 BW (balanced)
2. Forged 6.125" rods with ARP bolts
3. Forged Racetec Pistons @ -5cc .003+ bore size.
4. NPR Steel Rings
5. King Race rod and main bearings.
6. Engine Balanced @ 3% "over"

The optional items :

1. My LS-2 timing chain with Chrome Steel links.
2. FelPro 1041 head gasket
3. GM 2010 Camaro Oil Pump.
4. My head studs.
5. My GM LS-1/2 Valve Spring kit. (EOM)
6. My Denso 650cc AC injectors. (long)

No need for the ARP Main Bolt upgrade.

Lance
idk how to reply lol
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Originally Posted by Brandon Stanley
Also i would like to use my stock crankshaft.
You can't have a stock crank and a 4" stroke lol.
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I'd use the LS9 head gaskets if you're going to boost it.

With a turbo, the stock crank is fine. Shelf Wiseco pistons, some Compstar Rods, and new bearings. You don't need the ARP main studs, but they are like $250 to add to the cost + line hone costs at the machine shop. But yeah.

I'd do maybe some upgraded PSI 1511 beehives if you keep the stock cam, a Melling 10295 oil pump, and a new timing chain (Rollmaster Double Roller is my preferred) or a C5R chain on your stock gears. While you have the cam out, grab a turbo grind from BTR like a Stage 1 or Stage 2... but I'd use the BTR Platinum dual valve springs with the more aggressive lobes on an aftermarket cam + boost.

I'd throw some Straub Bronze Bushed trunnions into the stock rockers and some new lifters. Morel drop in replacements and new lifter trays at least or maybe step up to some of the Johnson low leak lifters.
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
You can't have a stock crank and a 4" stroke lol.
i understand that. Im saying i dont think a 4" stroke will even work in a ls1. Thats why i would like to stay with my stock crank
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
I'd use the LS9 head gaskets if you're going to boost it.

With a turbo, the stock crank is fine. Shelf Wiseco pistons, some Compstar Rods, and new bearings. You don't need the ARP main studs, but they are like $250 to add to the cost + line hone costs at the machine shop. But yeah.
I wanna keep this cost down as much as possible
I'd do maybe some upgraded PSI 1511 beehives if you keep the stock cam, a Melling 10295 oil pump, and a new timing chain (Rollmaster Double Roller is my preferred) or a C5R chain on your stock gears. While you have the cam out, grab a turbo grind from BTR like a Stage 1 or Stage 2... but I'd use the BTR Platinum dual valve springs with the more aggressive lobes on an aftermarket cam + boost.

I'd throw some Straub Bronze Bushed trunnions into the stock rockers and some new lifters. Morel drop in replacements and new lifter trays at least or maybe step up to some of the Johnson low leak lifters.
i wanna keep the cost down as much as possible and maintain some reliablilty
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Originally Posted by Brandon Stanley
i understand that. Im saying i dont think a 4" stroke will even work in a ls1. Thats why i would like to stay with my stock crank
Why would they make a 4" crank if nobody can use it?
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Why would they make a 4" crank if nobody can use it?
383 strokers are a 4' crsnk in an LS1 block lol
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Originally Posted by Mavn
383 strokers are a 4' crsnk in an LS1 block lol
You missed the extreme sarcasm lol.
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
You missed the extreme sarcasm lol.
i read somewhere with a 4" stroke your piston skirts star going below the sleeves. But i could be wrong. Besided the point anyway. I just need help with this. no stroking. Stock crank. Am i gonna see fuel issues? To little compression? Is this **** gonna hold up if i bump it to 14 or so psi
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The stock bottom end has been a lot higher than 14 PSI. the stock crank has been 1400 HP.

Your limiting factor will be the LS1 block.
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Cheapest route is to go with a 5.3L out of a junkyard. It'll hold up to boost and is within budget.


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