Blue2002SS

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when I do a search I only come up with about 1/5th as many posts as I do for a G5X3 cam. I have not read anything bad about the X1 but why isn't it more popular?

specs on the cam are: 228/232 588/575 on a 114 so this is a large cam, is there any reason I should not go with this cam? should I go bigger?

Ben R

A lot of people mistakenly assume that bigger is better. A lot of people also try to copy somebody elses setup, hoping they'll make the same power numbers, but usually end up dissappointed when they fall short.

goober35

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That is about an avrage cam now adays. I am running a 228/228 588 588 114. So for the most parts i have more lift and it has more deration. That cam was not out to long before LG dropped the X2 and it just distroyed the X1.

Blue2002SS

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Ok, but what I am trying to find out is why eveyone goes with the x2 and x3 instead of the x1?

I dont think it is because of the size because the x1 is larger than the TR224, and that is a very popular cam.

PREDATOR-Z

Cam only is why poeple go big to make up for the inability of stock heads to do the task required.
IMO cam has to match head parameters, that is why one should choose a cam according to their heads.
With AFR stepping into the scene it is now obvious that cams considered "small" can put out #'s rivaling cams like T-Rex, G5X3 and others.
We can argue about vendor advertised #'s (480rwhp with a 224/228 and AFR 205's), but it means these #'s can be reached, it is just a matter to have access to all the resources that those vendors have (shops, experienced tuners and personel, machine experts, products etc.....).
Off course for a consumer this costs a lot, so we try to do the most with our budgets and we are often dissapointed if we can't reach the goals achieved by professionals.

Ragtop 99

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nothing wrong with that cam. You'll get a lot of performance from the cam, and should be able to tune it for livable daily driving.

Blue2002SS

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ok thanks guys, I just needed some reassurance before spending $2500

Tranzor

I hope that includes the price of some nice heads to go with the cam...

foff667

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i hope your getting some good head for that amount

scalemaster

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what do ya'll think about x2 with 205/160 heads

Ben R

Are those valve sizes? If so, I'd go with a 2.02/1.60 if you're using a stock bore.

Blue2002SS

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no $2500 does not include heads. this is how it adds up:

G5X1 cam, 921 springs, poly pushrods, Titanium Retainers, I might be forgetting somthing but the total on parts comes to $1100 or so, then $600 for installation on all the parts, and $500 for dyno tune, then $100 for fixing my y-pipe. and 8.25% tax on top of all that.
1100+ 600+500+100=2300x1.0825= $2489.75

so can someone tell me how I can get a "nice set of heads" for that price?

dug

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Nevermind. Im still tryin to figure out how that adds up to $2500

Blue2002SS

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parts $1100
labor $600
Dyno tune $500
y-pipe $100
tax 8.75% $189.75

Total = $2489

Tranzor

You can cut that cost in half by installing and tuning yourself... that's how a lot of us do it. There's no way I would have been able to afford most of my mods in my sig if I had to pay for labor on top of the cost of the parts...

PREDATOR-Z

For $1895 you could get a 5.3 PP stage 2 H/C complete package from TSP. They have some pretty good "radical" cams too. 231/237, 231/231, 233/233 (Torquer cam). No tax, out of state order + install and you benefit from heads also

tensecondz

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This is not a dig on anyone is this thread, but i have done some wrenchin in my time, and I have been around guys who just dont have the skills or patience to do something like this by themselves. Some people are a quick study, others, just not their cup of tea.

For many people, yes take pride in your own work, research common issues, tips suggestions etc,,, be patient and thorough and you can do a great job on self-installs while saving $$$$.... Other people,,,,,humm pay someone to do it, or at least have good supervision!.... Screw-ups can be very costly

SSCamaro99_3

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Good advice. Not everyone has the tools and capability to do some of these mods themselves. I would not have ever tried my cam install myself.

Tranzor

I didn't think I did either... this is the first car I've ever turned a wrench on. I kind of surprised myself with how easy some of this stuff really can be... I always like to say to give an install a try. Just get some help from your local LS1TECH board members and go for it... I've found most people on here are pretty willing to help, and I've made a nice group of friends out of the people I met locally from this board.

Blue2002SS

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I have installed every part on my car so far, including the TCI3500 converter. I would install the cam also but I dont have any tools to change springs and I want a dyno tune done when the cam swap is finished.