Fixxer99TA

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Alright guys, this is the last one...I PROMISE!!!

After reading all your posts before, and some careful research on my part (actually, its the same cam I was thinking about to begin with, since now Im just going to go with a mail order tune...).

Its between these two, being the same cam but with different LSA.....Here is my question.....Since the cams are the same, Im looking for some nice noticeable lope, but nothing HUGE (just very very nice ).

TR or TSP 224/224 114
or
TR or TSP 224/224 112

As you most likely already know, my car is a 99 TA A4.

Since these two cams are same power-wise, which would give me a great sounding idle (through LTs/ORY/Hooker CB......and an electronic cutout when I want! .....but nothing too overwealming.....this car is just a fair-weather street rod, I dont race it but just enjoy building/modding (and of course) cruising!

Also, would double valve springs be nessessary (or just a good security mod?) I notice the lift isnt huge on the 224, but the TSP camshaft package that has Crane double valve springs, Titanium retainers, Hardened spring seats, GM valve seals, and hardened pushrods seemed like a good deal for $700.... would you reccomend anything else?

Lady Redhawk

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I don't believe there would be any noticeable difference in the two companies with these two cams. You can't beat the guys at TSP. We have dealt with them on quite a few orders, they are quick to fill your order and get it out to you. They really know their business and are very helpful.
If you want a good lope at idle you will need the 112 lsa. Just make sure you warm your car up to full temp before you drive it. You don't "need" duel springs, but a good idea, I won't run the stock springs though.

BlueSix

The 114 will have a higher powerband than the 112, and i think the 112 will have more low end torque. But there shouldn't be a whole lot of difference.

luv2spd

iTrader: (1)

Go for the 112. The lope will be what you're looking for. I got my cam package from tsp. Nothing but good things to say about em, but I haven't heard anything negative about thunder either. I have done business with both, and they're both great!

slowtan

112 better sound

anything else .. rockers , timing chain , oil pump .. You might as well do everything while you are at it

Fixxer99TA

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As long as it isnt too bad with the 112, hopefully it wont be tough to tune it either since Im doing a mail order tune

Also keep in mind, I have LTs/ORY/Hooker catback with an e-cutout in the I pipe for when I "need" it

So the majority seems to be go for the 112, anyone else have any good input? And thanks for the replies so far!

(And yeah, TSP and TR are both very good companies to deal with, Ive bought from both of them on numerous occasions, and not even a hint of a complaint from me!).

-Nick

2MuchRiceMakesMeSick

The lower 112 LSA will have a more choppy idle but the difference wont be that much cause the cam is not that big. More then likely you wont require a tune with that cam but it might squeeze out a few more hp. The double springs are not required with that size of a cam and may even hurt you due to too much spring pressure.

Sanders

Both are great companies, I would buy from wichever has the best price on the whole package. 918 springs will be enough for those cams.

The 112 will produce the lope that you are looking for. It should still be easy to tune because the 224 is probably the widest used cam out there.

Avengeance

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I have a tr224/114... to be honest I wasnt sure if I was gonna be happy with the mild 114lsa but I was surprised when I fired it up. It has more lope then you think... its actually a 113.6lsa or something like that, the cam card said it was less then 114. Ive very happy with the cam.... dynoed 397/385 with it and bolt ons.

35th SS

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I have it on a 112lsa on the 35th.running the 918 springs.idling@850rpm.cam has a purdy good lope.trying to hit high 11s on motor with slicks.it can be done.

Fixxer99TA

iTrader: (5)

Very cool, I think the 112 is what I will be going for then.....looks like TSP has some nice kits.....is it true the double springs would hurt the performance because of too much pressure? The doubles seemed like a good price and I like the idea of having the extra insureance (like the 918s on such a mild cam would break anyways )

And, are the double roller and LS6 pump needed? I dont mind going back and doing it later, in fact I love to take the car apart so it may actually be a good thing

5POINT7

FROM TSP: The LS6 oil pump is definitely NOT needed. It's just insurance, just like getting the duals over the 918's. I'd get the oil pump, though. High oil pressure is definitely a good thing, and it will increase something like 30 psi over stock oil pressure. Same with the double roller, not needed, just insurance. You can retard timing with the double roller, and that's necessary when going nitrous (if you plan on spraying).

I'm in the same predicament as you though, bro. I called up TSP for the info I just gave you. I'm going with the same package as you, but with the 231/237 w/ double roller, LS6 oil pump, and LS6 intake. Good luck with your purchase man!

5POINT7

Fixxer, pm Distortion_69 before you buy the package. He'll help out a lot.