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Old 12-10-2004, 05:51 PM
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To make a long story short, I ordered a cam from AS and to no prevail, never got the cam. So the CC company is handling it from here. Though I still want a cam to get the most from his heads. I feel the tr224 cam is not taking full advantage of what these heads can do. I only put down 409 through a full catted exhaust. Here is what I have and what I am looking for. I just need some advice on what to order. Cams are very complicated once you get into them.

AS 5.3 stg II heads. He ported the heads to flow the best up to .575 lift. That was due to the tr224 cam I have now, so I would like to keep the lift at or near .575. Idle is a concern, but want it to idle rougher than the tr224. Want to take advantage of the AS intake, 78mm AS tb, and the heads ofcourse. Jay say the heads were unmilled and yielded a CR of 11:1.

Here is what I was getting from him, comp grind 230/236 .575/.575 on a 114 lsa w/ 2 deg. advace ground in to bring the power band down some. My problem is there is alot more to ordering a cam than what info I know. What more do I need? Like type of lobes, different rates and lifts at certain points? All this is greek to me.

Is a cam like this going to make a difference, or should I stay with the tr224?

More details in the sig. Thanks to all who can help. My search buttom letters have worn off.
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Custom means custom...

This is a minimum of what is needed to do it right!

Type of Camshaft Requested:
Hydraulic Flat Tappet [ ]
Solid Flat Tappet [ ]
Hydraulic Roller [ ]
Solid Roller [ ]
Overhead Camshaft [ ]
Body Style/Type:
Weight With Driver:
Goals and Usage:
Engine Details:
Type of Engine:
Cubic Inches:
Bore and Stroke:
Compression:
Rod Length:
Rod Type:
RPM Range Desired:
Cylinder Head Details:
Manufacturer:
Ported or Stock:
Valve Sizes:
Port Volumes:
Combustion Chamber Size:
Flow Figures (.100" through .700"):
Valve Spring Pressures:
Rocker Arm Ratio:
Induction Details:
Intake Manifold Type:
Throttle Body or Carb Size:
Stock or Ported:
Engine Management System:
Exhaust Type:
Header or Manifold:
Shorty [ ]
Mid-Length [ ]
Long Tube [ ]
Primary Size:
Collector Size:
X-Pipe:
Exhaust Diameter:
Type of Muffler:
Full Exhaust [ ]
Dumps [ ]
Transmission Details:
Manual [ ]
Automatic [ ]
Clutch Type:
Converter Stall:
Gear Ratios:
Chassis Details:
Rear Gear Ratio:
Rear Tire Size:
Diameter:
Width:
Suspension Mods:
Miscellaneous Details:
Emissions Required?
Special Issues:
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[QUOTE=EDC]Custom means custom...

This is a minimum of what is needed to do it right!

Type of Camshaft Requested:
Hydraulic Roller [ ]
stay hydraulic since I am staying stock lifters
Body Style/Type:
in sig
Weight With Driver:
the vert is heavy 3700-3800 in the ball park
Goals and Usage:
More track days, less drag racing
weekend car only
Engine Details:
stock bottom end stock cubic inch
Type of Engine: ls1
Cubic Inches: stock
Bore and Stroke: stock
Compression: 11:1
Rod Length: stock
Rod Type: stock
RPM Range Desired: stay under 6700 rpm
Cylinder Head Details:
Manufacturer: AS
Ported or Stock: cnc ported
Valve Sizes: 2.055 intake 1.6 exhaust
Port Volumes: not sure, but I think his 5.3's speced in the 230's
Combustion Chamber Size: 5.3 l stock
Flow Figures (.100" through .700"):
Lift intake exhaust
200 145 114
300 204 160
400 254 198
450 274 207
500 290 218
550 302 224
575 308 226

Valve Spring Pressures: ??
978 springs
Rocker Arm Ratio:
1.7
Induction Details:
slp lid
Intake Manifold Type:
ported AS ls6
Throttle Body or Carb Size:
Stock or Ported:
ported AS 78 mm
Engine Management System:
stock
Exhaust Type:
Header or Manifold:
TTS Long Tube w/ tts cats and GMMG with cme
Primary Size:1-3/4
Collector Size:3"
X-Pipe:none
Exhaust Diameter:3.5"
Type of Muffler: gmmg
Full Exhaust: yes
Dumps: no
Transmission Details:
Manual: mn6
Clutch Type: exedy single

Gear Ratios:
to be 3.73
Rear Tire Size: stock
Diameter:17" SS wheel
Width:stock
Suspension Mods:Bilstein susp.
Miscellaneous Details:kbdd sfc's
Emissions Required? no
Special Issues: more power lol

How does this do?
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Anybody out there have any advice?
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Yes.

Now that you filled that out, call Ed and order a custom cam from him.
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Ed, I sent you an email.

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ed doesn't give specs away for free. you have to pay him first.
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Originally Posted by mrr23
ed doesn't give specs away for free. you have to pay him first.
Yup.... I don't post them for free... but I prefer give an idea to people who respond directly...

A bit different than what you assumed...

Email sent Brian...

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Originally Posted by mrr23
ed doesn't give specs away for free. you have to pay him first.

That'd be most places that custom grind camshafts, at least that's what I expierenced.
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Originally Posted by EDC
Yup.... I don't post them for free... but I prefer give an idea to people who respond directly...

A bit different than what you assumed...

Email sent Brian...

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Got it, will be in touch with you. Hope we can work together to get me a cam that works well with what I have.

Oh, I know nothing is free, but this web site will usually give OR will point you in the right direction. Before I posted, I new nothing about Ed or his business. Now I now.
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who is this Ed curtis you guys speak of
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who is this Ed curtis you guys speak of
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Originally Posted by EDC
Yup.... I don't post them for free... but I prefer give an idea to people who respond directly...

A bit different than what you assumed...

Email sent Brian...

Ed
then back in the cam thread post i asked you what you would come up with in all that discussion, you wouldn't even give up a .050 spec for the sake of conversation. your only response was i don't give specs away for free. i only go by what you post there skippy. and i dont ASSuME. what i find particularly funny is that you are allowed to make sales off this board, but yet not pay to advertise.
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Originally Posted by MUSTANGEATER
That'd be most places that custom grind camshafts, at least that's what I expierenced.
i've called comp cams many times and have gotten custom grind specs. and i've called erson cams as well with the same results.
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Originally Posted by mrr23
then back in the cam thread post i asked you what you would come up with in all that discussion, you wouldn't even give up a .050 spec for the sake of conversation. your only response was i don't give specs away for free. i only go by what you post there skippy. and i dont ASSuME. what i find particularly funny is that you are allowed to make sales off this board, but yet not pay to advertise.

Please go back to working on Vinci's web site.... "skippy"

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and he doesn't even advertise
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Now, now boys.
You guys are both stand up kinda of poeple, with good reputations on this board. No need to show fangs.
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Originally Posted by EDC
Please go back to working on Vinci's web site.... "skippy"

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and you stick to working on fords

overall i'm sure you're an upstanding guy. you have alot of knowledge you share some of. and for that we thank you. but, just because the cam isn't 'custom' ground for a particular situation doesn't mean the person won't get the most out of their combination.
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and he doesn't even advertise
you think it's neat. but, what do the PAYING advertisers think about it??? i know how much it costs to advertise here. it's not cheap. if he can advertise for free, then all the advertisers should also.
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Originally Posted by mrr23
i've called comp cams many times and have gotten custom grind specs. and i've called erson cams as well with the same results.
All of those would be right out of the catalog. I think you need to understand what custom means.

you think it's neat. but, what do the PAYING advertisers think about it??? i know how much it costs to advertise here. it's not cheap. if he can advertise for free, then all the advertisers should also.
The problem is any moron can pay money and become an "expert" on here. There are probably only a handful of people on this board that are truely experts, not "experts".



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