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Old 04-16-2003, 03:09 PM
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Thanks for the help guys, I'll continue saving up for that cam swap then. Next in line will probably be a 12 bolt with 3.73's <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Forget the 3.73s and get 4.11s or 4.56. Going from 3.42 to 3.73 with an M6 is not nearly enough IMO.
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I just got off the phone with one of the reps from Thunder Racing, since I'm looking for a cam to buy. I'm torn between the 224/224 .561/.561 114 LSA and the 224/224 .563/.563 112 LSA cam. I'm kind of leaning towards the 112 LSA. Anyways, the rep told me that I should get a set of gears before I get a cam, because these cams like the upper rpms and it'll feel like it's taking forever to get up there. Is he right? Should I go with a set of gears first, then a cam? I really don't want to do a set of gears because I plan to do a 12-bolt down the road, so I would wasting my money in a way. What do you guys think? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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I had the opportunity to drive a friend's car for a while. Identical to mine, except for rear gears. 6-speed, cam (his: TR224, mine, MTI B1), longtubes, no cat, bolt ons.

I had 4.10 gears in a 12-bolt, his had 3.42's.

His felt quick, but after being used to mine, his felt lazy from a punch on the highway (going 70 and drop it in to 3rd). So yes, you will gain power with a cam, so if you want to do a cam, just do it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> But it *really* wakes up when you do gears.

I pulled the 4.10's and am now running 4.56's. I like them even better. <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> 3rd is just that much more fun on the highway now.

Of course, my friend's car has been sitting for the last 6 weeks because he blew up his 3.42's at the strip on Nittos. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Mine's Moser equipped, and laughs at 6k RPM clutch dumps. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

-Andrew (did the 12-bolt before the cam)
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I drive a 99 WS6 with very large cam (almost unstreetable). Right now my car has 3.23 gears in it and it seems like it sleeps untill about 4,000 RPM. I have a set of 3.73 gears i will be installing in a few weeks, but you can drive on stock gears with a large cam.
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Default Re: Need gears before cam?

I dont think that you need gears before a cam.

I think you just need gears, period <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> .

Unless you are racing 140mph+ on the highway, gears are the biggest bang/buck out there, IMHO.

Do it in either order, since the cam likes 4.10s, and the 4.10s like cams.

Then the cam/4.10s are going to like headers, and then .... <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> the real trouble begins.

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Gears for the cam eh??

Then I must be NUTZ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

In a few weeks in going with a Comp 224/224 .581
In an A4...with... 2.73's!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
(Getting MAC headers as well)
EDIT: This is in the 98..

Believe it or not.. I still like my lil 2.73's
The car right now has run a 12.70 on em with the mods listed below.

I figure I'll keep running em. After all, they thicker and less suseptible to breakage...

Hmmmm.. I wonder what the new setup will do at the track....

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Default Re: Need gears before cam?

Thunder recommended a 4600 stall and 410 gears before my TR230/224 also. I just told them it isn't in the budget right now so give me the cam! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

You don't NEED gears but they will allow you to get the most from the cam.




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