Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

super high RPM hydrolic cam

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-22-2003, 11:41 AM
  #1  
TECH Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Terry Burger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Posts: 4,712
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default super high RPM hydrolic cam

I'm toying with the idea of going for the cam only record (10.99 now right?). What kinda cam would I need for super high RPM action? I'm thinking something like a 232/232 114ls. Any other ideas? Narrow power band is OK.
Old 04-22-2003, 01:12 PM
  #2  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (22)
 
ONEBADWS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,474
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

01-Z should have that record beat tonight, G5X-2 is an awsome cam.
Old 04-22-2003, 01:43 PM
  #3  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (7)
 
The Juggernaut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chicago,IL
Posts: 2,516
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

Well...I'm trying anyway. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

LG will sell you the cam,they don't have to install it.

Speed Inc. installed mine.
Old 04-22-2003, 01:59 PM
  #4  
JS
10 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
JS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Delray Beach, Fl.
Posts: 7,303
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

Hey that was my idea too..
Terry u stole my idea <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Good luck 01....
JS
Old 04-22-2003, 02:22 PM
  #5  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (18)
 
DONAIMIAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: NW Houston, TX
Posts: 10,036
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

Who set that record for the fastest cam only car. What was the race weight on it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Old 04-22-2003, 02:26 PM
  #6  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
MastaAce98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

You plan on running an aftermarket piston, or are you going to keep this strictly a bolt-on type application?

If I were you I'd run an aftermarket piston, something pretty high compression, and a shorter rod (not MUCH shorter, just a few thousandths of an inch). Then I'd make sure the heads would be able to flow what the cam needed, and then run a Comp-R lifter and rev it to 7500/7600.

Don't go the solid roller route unless you know what you're doing. You can slow your car down substantially.
Old 04-22-2003, 02:28 PM
  #7  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
MastaAce98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

Oh and by the way.... just for conversation.

7200rpm is NOT "super high" rpm.
Old 04-22-2003, 02:43 PM
  #8  
TECH Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Terry Burger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Posts: 4,712
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
You plan on running an aftermarket piston, or are you going to keep this strictly a bolt-on type application?

If I were you I'd run an aftermarket piston, something pretty high compression, and a shorter rod (not MUCH shorter, just a few thousandths of an inch). Then I'd make sure the heads would be able to flow what the cam needed, and then run a Comp-R lifter and rev it to 7500/7600.

Don't go the solid roller route unless you know what you're doing. You can slow your car down substantially.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not sure yet, but I might wind up with stock replacement forged pistons (at stock CR). I'd love to get the CR up but I think that's "cheating". I don't think any cam in an LS1 with stock heads is going to make power to 7600, not even a solid roller, but 7200 seems possible. Down the road I might add ported 5.3 heads with light weight LS6 valves.
Old 04-22-2003, 02:49 PM
  #9  
On The Tree
 
TreeGreenZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: NOVA
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Don't go the solid roller route unless you know what you're doing. You can slow your car down substantially.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whats the matter with Solid Roller <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Old 04-22-2003, 02:53 PM
  #10  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
MastaAce98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TreeGreenZ:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Don't go the solid roller route unless you know what you're doing. You can slow your car down substantially.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whats the matter with Solid Roller <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I never said anything was wrong with it. I just said that if you don't know what you're doing, you'll probably get pissed because your car ran a lot slower than you expected. I've seen it happen a hundred times.
Old 04-22-2003, 03:17 PM
  #11  
LS1Tech Co-Founder
iTrader: (34)
 
Pro Stock John's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 44,653
Received 1,099 Likes on 721 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

IMO it has to have a stock bottom end with maybe ARP rod bolts, Hoffpauir has a bone stock bottom end I think.
Old 04-22-2003, 03:20 PM
  #12  
TECH Fanatic
 
Fenris Ulf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Objects in mirror no longer matter.
Posts: 1,566
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

If you are going with a G5X2, just get a comp XE-R 232/240 on a 114 with like 2-4 degrees of advance. The G5X2 has like 7 or more degrees of advance ground in per LGs specs.
Old 04-22-2003, 03:37 PM
  #13  
On The Tree
 
HP-GURU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

Extend your powerband by increasing duration, not by widening LSA. I think for a record on stock headed car, the LSA will be narrow.
Old 04-22-2003, 03:38 PM
  #14  
Moderator
 
xp3nd4bl3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Murrieta
Posts: 814
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

BIIIIIG dood!
Old 04-22-2003, 03:40 PM
  #15  
TECH Veteran
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Terry Burger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Posts: 4,712
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

I want a high RPM narrow power band. Say 6200-7200rpm. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Old 04-22-2003, 04:32 PM
  #16  
gwj
TECH Addict
 
gwj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Live Oak, FL - in the woods where the creatures lurk.
Posts: 2,003
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tin Indian:
<strong> Topic: "super high RPM hydrolic cam"

Terry, it's spelled "Hydraulic" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Sorry, I don't have a good answer to your question.

Ron,
Spelling Teacher </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sorry, off topic here. Good to see you back in the World, Ron. I'm sure your vehicle has seen some hard acceleration, as the two of you get re-aquanted after all this time!
Gerald,
Non-spelling checker. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Old 04-22-2003, 04:34 PM
  #17  
gwj
TECH Addict
 
gwj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Live Oak, FL - in the woods where the creatures lurk.
Posts: 2,003
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

I guess that was literal, as I seem to have left the "i" out of acquainted! Duh!
Old 04-22-2003, 04:45 PM
  #18  
On The Tree
 
TreeGreenZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: NOVA
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
I never said anything was wrong with it. I just said that if you don't know what you're doing, you'll probably get pissed because your car ran a lot slower than you expected. I've seen it happen a hundred times.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ya I understand that, I was just wondering what am I gonna screw up, so that mine doesn't run that well???? Right now I am only seeing like 18 degrees of timing at WOT, adn I am little lean, I am gonna go to the track here soon, hopefully I can run this tune, then run a new tune and see what happens.....Hopefully good things. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Old 04-22-2003, 07:24 PM
  #19  
TECH Apprentice
 
DailyAluminumBlock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Salisbury, Md
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

Narrow LSA would surely help. Try a G5-X2 related duration cam on xe-r lobes with a 108-110lsa.
Old 04-22-2003, 08:14 PM
  #20  
TECH Fanatic
 
Tin Indian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: SW Florida
Posts: 1,975
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default Re: super high RPM hydrolic cam

gwj .....

Well, thankyou so much. Yes, back in the good ol' US of A.

I retire from US fed civil service in 7 more months. Thinking about moving to Pattaya Beach, Thailand.

Here we go again..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Ron,



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:43 AM.