Klypto

yes i know.. been asked a million times... but atleast im going to be pretty specific

Ok. Well i wrecked my 00 z 3 weeks ago, im doing motor/tranny swap into my 98 v6 camaro...

Well, i already have strange 12 bolt with upgraded posi and 4.10 gears. strange HD driveshaft, g-force upgrade kit for t56, spec stage3 clutch, steel flywheel, hooker headers/y-pipe, hooker catback, getting ls6 intake, have lid, getting smooth bellows, well i think thats it(mainly for drivetrain/go fast mods)... im trying to decide on what cam to get. im looking at a few from thunder racing, and i cant decide! I want something that even a moron can tell i have a cam, im not afraid of car shacking, etc... ill actually love it less work to do in back seat... shh i didnt say that! just kidding! as of now(with stock rear end 3.42 gears 10 bolt, etc) i got 18-19 city 23-25 hwy/city(80%/20%, give or take) of coarse its going to drop, im just trying to figure out how much mpg....

1) Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft - 224/224 .563/.563 112 LSA 1700-6600 RPM Power Band. Excellent mid-range & high RPM power. Requires computer tuning on automatic transmission cars. Due to the fast ramp rate of this camshaft, the use of 1.8 rockers is not recommended.

2) Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft - 224/224 .563/.563 114 LSA 1700-6600 RPM Power Band. Excellent mid-range & high RPM power. Requires computer tuning on automatic transmission cars. Due to the fast ramp rate of this camshaft, the use of 1.8 rockers is not recommended.

3) Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft - 220/220 .551/.551 112 LSA 1500-6500 RPM Power Band. Computer Tuning Required with automatic transmission cars. A very well balanced camshaft that makes excellent power across the entire RPM range. Due to the fast ramp rate of this camshaft, the use of 1.8 rockers is not recommended.View Dyno Graph

4) Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft - 220/220 .551/.551 114 LSA 1500-6500 RPM Power Band. Computer Tuning Required with automatic transmission cars. A very well balanced camshaft that makes excellent power across the entire RPM range. Due to the fast ramp rate of this camshaft, the use of 1.8 rockers is not recommended.

the last two... the dyno graphs.. i dont like how it starts dropping at 5k, the first too stay strong till the end... iknow the first two are more agressive, but HOW much more agressive? and what kind of mpg should i expect with these??? with the 4.10s also... i drive like a granny most of the time.. i dont care what mpg when im on it... hell i got below 10 stock sometimes lol... but like i said.. 95% of the time i used to get 18+ mpg city....

and if these arnt great, im open to suggestions.. i have 9-10k for the swap, already have the rear end... also LSA 112 and 114, from what i heard 114 is smoother.... i barely know what the cam # mean, i knwo the basic idea,but nothing special. I posted here first bc theres a lot of ppl on here with knowledge! but if i cant get anything i guess ill call up TR next week once i get the money...

thanks MANY i know its long, but i will RLY appreciate anything!
Cory

jrp

iTrader: (16)

check the cam guide in my sig.

whats the application? going by your list i'd have to say tr224 112 but that could change with application.

cyphur

iTrader: (10)

from the sound of it, you want even an idiot to know you have a cam in your car.....the cams you listed, are kind of small in relation to what are considered "big cams" these days. you could throw in a 23x cam and really let someone know you're not messin around.

iamsickofitall

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yeah those cams are babies...you'll have to go bigger if you want it to be very noticeable...check out ls1sounds.com for different sound clips for various exhaust, cam, & h/c setups

jrp

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if you had guess what you you say the size of this cam is?

http://ourworld.cs.com/ls1info/Idle.wmv

Klypto

ok... i may have made it sound too nuts... 400 rwhp from a cam, and stuff to go with it is not an agressive cam!??! hehe, i may be more lost than i though lol... TR dynoed it with headers, etc, and things to go with it at high 390s rwhp.... wehn i said noticable, i mean street driven still

thx
cory

blkZ28spt

It sounds like you may want something a little bigger than a 224. Do a whole bunch of searching this forum and checking out the sponsors websites. With a proper dyno tune you can get cams much larger than a 224 to drive very well. Having a car that lopes is FUN. You can enjoy the mods and 'performance' every time to drive the car, regardless.

tonydss

hmmm well i wanted exactly what you wanted and last year if im not mistaken this cam produced some of the better #s at the track. also goes good with stock heads ..well right at the limit 232 238 .595 .608 lsa114 +2 that will be installed in one week its on its way ......... i have done alot of researh and worrie

iamsickofitall

iTrader: (18)

i can't pull up the link but it sounds like you're leading me to a vid of a small cam like a hotcam or t1, which do lope. i was just in agreement with going with a 23x cam for more noticeable lope. those size cams have greater overlap than smaller cams, thus they lope more.

i'm not trying to be an authority on cams here...i was just looking to send a helpful link to supplement the cam guide in your sig...morons will know it's a cammed car with more 23x cams than with 22x cams.

my stock cam with lowered idle sounds just as badass as some 22x cam cars...my buddy's 23x cam car sounds like it's cammed...i guess it's all relative tho w/exact specs & such

jrp

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T1

my point is just you dont need monster huge duration for lope .

Klypto still hasnt listed the application, we can all list huge 230 - 240 duration cams that will give him lope but if they dont fit his goal/application then theres no point. hell, a hot cam will give him the lope he wants.

99blancoSS

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tr224 all the power is under the curve, you won't go wrong but you can go with a bigger cam and get good streetablity out of it. The bigger the cam the more the powerband is later in the rpm range. Some dont like to rev their cars that high all the time, some do. They make cams these days for every level of rpm you want. Also if your thinking about forced induction later stick with a 114 lsa.
My tr224 has a nice lope to it.

HavATampa

iTrader: (49)

Sorry, can't give you the answer you are looking for, to many variables involved like Jerami is suggesting. Just curious, how did your wreck happen? Looks like you were on very straight part of the highway.

Klypto

i want nice lope.. power under the curve... i want my engine to last dont want to be reving to 6500 everytime i race. unless iknow it can take it... i want power, and lope. BUT at same time, i dont want to completely destroy my mpg.... iknow it will drop, but how much... hell.. IF i can get a bigger cam, but still stay dcent city.. ill get it,...

thanks
cory

long story on how wreck happened....

jrp

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TSP 225 112 and an 700 idle

HavATampa

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The problem with asking such a question with so many different answers is most people will claim the cam they are running at the moment is the cam to have. Your best bet is to read and search this site and others and call a few vendors like TSP, Thunder and Futural and tell them what you have and what you want and see what they recommend.

HavATampa

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Hehe....very true. Hell, that cam and 900 idle still has a nice lope......but in no way am I making any suggestive suggestions

jrp

iTrader: (16)

, i didnt even notice you had the TSP 225

blkZ28spt

Mine lopes at 1,100.

ssheets

iTrader: (1)

I'm thinking about a tr224...for my wife's Suburban

01_SuperSlow

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Based on this, it looks like a Futral cam will fit you well.