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Old 04-23-2005, 03:26 PM
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I am hoping you guys can intelligently help me settle a debate with a friend. I am an F-Body guy, he is a porsche( ) guy. He is convinced his daddys boxter would smash my stock z28 (well, borla exhaust) I am trying to sound intelligent in saying that he might win, but he won't smash me. What do you guys think?
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no I dont think it will. I knew a guy who had one and rode in it and it didn't feel as fast as mine and I only have lid/catback
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the boxter is really the poor mans porsche. if it was the turbo ersion then itd be a lil more difficult. a stock, porsche boxter with jus the flat 4 and no goodies id say ud walk him
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He "might" get you in the twisties, in straight line you will rip him a new one.

I took out a few Carrera 4 Porsche's and 2 Carrera 4S when I was completely stock except for a lid. The Porsche Carrera's are more powerful than the Boxster also.
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8KickassRS9, The boxter has a 6 in it...not a 4
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You will beat him. Just race him and find out . Then laugh at him when you beat him.
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Porsche Boxter won't stand a chanche.

1997 Porsche Boxster 6.0 14.5
2001 Porsche Boxster S 5.6 14.0
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

Personally I "had" a 01 Porsche Boxster S (we were selling it) and me and my bro took it for a ride. Felt fast mainly becouse it's a small car, but in the real life ain't fast for a Porsche.

Don't mess with it on the "twisties."
On a staight line if you can make a decent take of (not spinning badly) you will rape him, but if you spin too hard he will walk you easily, due to tha lack of torqe in the Porsche it won't spin it takes off every time.

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Invest 90$ for a lid. Won't brake your bank and you will feel the differene.
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you will smoke him
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I have a cousin with a Boxster. Unless you are the worst driver on the planet, he wouldn't have a chance in the 1/4.
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I am liking the look and the reviews of the slp lid for a fourth gen fbody, anyone have it/reccomend it?
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Also, I am buying a set of bosch platinum2 plugs tomorrow unless you guys can reccomend something better that doesnt cost $8.00 per plug
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I have the slp lid and love it. It looks good and fits great.
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Notice any performance difference?
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NGK's they are better and cheaper. can't go wrong with that! oh and btw with the boxter, honestly and compleatly un-bias, just get a "o-k' lauch and you'll have NO problem
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You should be able to nail his a$$ to the wall.
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With the exhaust and a lid you will feel a noticeable difference than stock, and you will definatly be able to tell that its not all in your head; The Hun, that webside is really helpful! except it says a 98 formula is 4 tenths slower than a 98 TA :
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Originally Posted by TheHun
Don't mess with it on the "twisties."
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think that the Boxster S is in the same SCCA class {T2}. If so,,, a F-Body has won that class for the last few years. Also in that class are Honda S200S and Nissan 350Zs. Not bad for a 22K$ in a class where the next cheapest car is 28 grand! Yea, the cars are modified but they are modded alot like the car that you and me drive on the street. They are not tube frame NASCAR that's for sure. Plus, the F-Bodies have a fair amount of "win" restrictions on them. I think that they carry the most addition penalty weight they can and I think that they have a air inlet restriction on them.

Sadly, I don't think that they are eligible for that class anymore.

Stock for the stock, the F-body has the advantage in acceleration, the Boxster has the advantage in handling but either one could be won or lost by the driver.
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A coworker would constantly run his on the freeway and streets against mine 3.4 V6. We were about equal. Since the 3.4 is the weakest of the 4th Gen Camaros, you should have no problem what so ever handing his *** to him

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The Hun, that webside is really helpful! except it says a 98 formula is 4 tenths slower than a 98 TA :
Thank you.
There's a few site about car's performance and most of the cases they come up with different but close numbers. (my guess would be different track, elevation, driver's skill etc... you can't run the same time / mph at the track either.)
but those sites generally give you a good estimate what to expect as an outcome.
Here is one more.

Back to the "twisties":
So F-bodies handle like a bath tub...don't believe the myth spread by ricers.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....ber=1&preview=

But in my opinion I would doubt on a slow track, full of with turns a stock F-Body would do very well. Let's be honest stock shocks suck.
In my opinion that track where the test was did is relatively fast and the SS could take advantage of its huge power / torqe over the car's what it beaten. They were not beaten by the awsome handling they were beaten by rough horse power and torque with just good enough handling.
If you ever have a chance to be taken for a ride in an M (BMW) car or Porsche with a skilled driver around the "twisties" you will see what handling means. They feel like they are on rails.

edit: this thread is in the wrong forum.

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Did you ever say whether is it an "S" model Boxster? Those are significantly quicker than the base boxster, but still don't have the hp/weight ratio of our F-bodies.

The year makes a difference for the boxter too... 1997 base boxster was only 197 hp, ugraded somewhat over the years but still 225 at most.

"S" models started at 255 hp and are up to 280 for '05. I would guess one of those properly driven could give you a run for the money in a straight-line considering your close to stock - but I will give you the edge based on torque.

Run him in a straight line, you should win.


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