02WS6Bird

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I'm looking from a few different perspectives.

First and Foremost-Performance I am hoping to get over 400 rwhp after a 6 speed trans conversion and a Moser 12 bolt with 3.73's, full bolt-ons for the most part and stock wheel/tire height/size/weight if not lighter. If possible without Heads. W/ heads Im hoping for about 425-450 rwhp

Second, I'm looking for which will run my motor most effectively throughout the range produce larger amounts of torque-Peak Torque show up higher than Peak HP so say i.e. 402 rwhp and 417 rwtq if but not necessary. Nice flat tabletop of a torque curve is what I'm lookin for.

Third, Daily driving and efficiency. I need to be able to daily drive the car, mostly city driving, but needs to be able to shut down some of the more powerful cars, allow me to obtain as close to stock/full-bolt on MPG. Which would also be better on my motor-if it affects the life of it at all.

Fourth is SOUND. I am going to install this with QTP LT's Catted-y and GMMG. I've heard several aggressive cams have become raspy through the range, and the added mechanical noise from the larger cams take away from the sound of GMMG like it is on the stock internal LS1's. I can't decide if i would prefer the lopey idle from a large cam like on old Muscle Cars-love it on those bad boys, but because its Modern Muscle I am unsure

Fifth-for my future setup. I hope to get the 455 stroker from MTI and one of the cams i am looking at, is spec'd out identical tot hat one, am unsure if it IS the same. I assume it is. If it IS however Would it be best to get it now, or not and just wait to get it all done NEW at one time. I know the cam will sound differently with the 455 from what I've seen so far-so thats the nice thing about it.

OK now for the Choices

MTI SS1/SS2 Camshaft- 220/220 .581/.581 115 or 224/220 .581/.581 116
MTI G1 Camshaft- 228/232 .588/.575 113 (same specs as 455)

If anyone has Comments or other Reccomendations, shoot. Soundclips/vids or testimonials or Charts of either POST UP.

Sorry for length and please post up any suggestions or info.

markp03

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i don;t know a hole lot but if you want big power i would think about getting a bigger cam then the 228/232 you can go bigger with the stock heads

02WS6Bird

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any1 else TTT?

02WS6Bird

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TTT por favor?

BOWTIE

Do a search, cam questions come up all the time and those with the knowledge get tired of writing the same thing over and over again. I will say I have not seen the MTI camshafts recommended very often. The hot picks tend to come from Futral, LG, TSP, and Thunder. Good luck.

SPANKY LS1

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Read this, then this, then this too and you should be good to go.

Shawn

1jfuddle

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Here is how I see the cam choices you have listed and how they match your goals...

If the order of what you want were 3-2-1-4-5, I would consider one of the first 2. You will have a Hell of a time getting 400 rwhp with either of those cams; especially with your setup. Both the 12bolt and the 3.73 ratio will make you dyno slightly lower and even with a stock rear, neither of those cams are going to make 400rwhp too often on stock heads.

The G1 does better fit your needs. However, I would NEVER use a cam that small with a 455 cid LS1. There are far better options to match such a huge mill. If you are going to stick 100% with MTI, the smallest cam that they carry that I would use on a big stroker is the R1. Some people have used the R1 with good results on stock displacement motors that are daily driven, so it is something to consider if you decide to stick with the same cam when the stroker goes.

02WS6Bird

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thanks- anybody else TTT?

02WS6Bird

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ttt fellas

02WS6Bird

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Does anyone else have opinions on this?

10secopcar

i have basically the G1 cam n my car. im an auto with 3.73 and 3600 yank stall, my car put down a whopping 325hp and 305tq. but i run 12.3s with this cam and bolt ons. just put the same cam n a six speed and it made 373hp at 5300 rpm. the car was a little lean thats y shut it off at 5300. but the cam pulls way out past 6000. and i no every1 says a bigger cam for a 455 but if MTI recommended it for that size motor than it must b doing something right.
because they put each cam they have n there motors and c which performs the best. also im spraying i no u said u dont want to but i spray 150 and run a 10.9. which at a good track like ennis that would b good for like a 10.6 or 10.5 just my 2 cents

Patrick G

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Don't choose a cam for a 346 that you can use for a 455 in the future. Let MTI get you the right cam for a 455. If you have good exhaust and want to concentrate on low to mid-range torque, you'll need to tighten up the LSA and advance the intake centerline somewhat. Stick with a single pattern grind and keep the intake closing point between 38-40 degrees ABDC (at .050") to build lots of cylinder pressure. With this approach, you'll pump up the torque at a small detriment to top-end hp, but that's your goals, not mine.

Good cam choice would be a Thunder Racing 224/224 112LSA cam +4 (108 ICL).

02WS6Bird

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Anybody else have a take on this? I'd really appreciate it-I'd like to avoid the TR224 and probably the Comp 224 becauese they are so common-I'd like a much less used cam so either new like the G1, Lunati 221/221 .580/.580 114 LSA, or the MTI Stealth series-TSP Torquer etc. I would like this to remain street legal however its not necessary

Please post up opinions

FiveSevenEagle

ive been trying to click on these links but it kept saying NO RESULT .. any solution .. thanx

FiveSevenEagle

i did a similar search .. then i opened a thread .. i was discussing almost the same issue .. after an extensive search i had my TR 224 114 .. nice nice cam .. but i dont think anybody will stick to it for more than one year !! why ?? cause it showes u how a cam can take u to another level .. anyway i sold it weeks ago .. and am looking for something bigger with more powwer .. and if they took me back to the same level id choose the TR224 but with a 112 lsa ..

i got F11 for a friend here and he did better than me

anyways Furtual is a great choice .. thunder , lunati 231 237 544 543 112 is a rock n' roll ,

tried the comp 224 before .. those are much better ...

i wish i can help more .. goodluck

02WS6Bird

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Keep them coming you guys-the more opinions will affect my decisions

If anyone has graphs of any of these please post up

02WS6Bird

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260+ reviews and only 15 response come on guys post up-We are all here to help eachother out, state our opinions and facts, and to learn more as we go along.

1FASTBIRD

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I have the F13 cam from futal and I can't be HAPPIER. If you want power plus daily driver and a good track time go with the F13

02WS6Bird

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Who makes that cam?Keep those suggestions coming fellas

1FASTBIRD

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futarl motorsports.Look on the side were the sponsers are and you will find it.