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Old 04-27-2005, 08:15 PM
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Default FMS F14 or TSP 231/237

FMS f14- 232"/234" .598"/.598" 114LSA or 112
TSP - 231"/237" .598"/.595 112LSA

Which one will you see the most power out of?

im sure this has been disgused before, sorry if it is a repost.
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I've had the TSP 231/237, but recently made a switch to F13. The Futral cams just seem to produce a better powerband than the 231/237 does.
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Originally Posted by Tranzor_Z28
I've had the TSP 231/237, but recently made a switch to F13. The Futral cams just seem to produce a better powerband than the 231/237 does.
The power under the curve always seems to be better
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so f14 would be the better choice?
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without a doubt...these two cams really shouldn't even be compared...you would make prolly 20+rwhp more peak...and under the curve omg you can forget about the tsp cam...the f-14 is light years ahead of the tsp231...and i even have the tsp...i was thinking about switching it out for that exact cam but i think i'm going to save for a 408ci
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Futral cams are in another league compared to TSP cams, IMO.
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Not even a comparison
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well you guys just helped me pick my cam for when i get my LS1...so would that cam be good on a 6 speed with header back exhaust?(as the only mods for now)
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this is good news, cause i just got my futral cam.
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No question I would go with f14 or any Futral cam.

I am still amazed at how well my f13 drives, even before I started tuning it. Now that I am just about done with tuning, below 3000 just driving around town you wouldn't even know it's there. But when I step on it.
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its really imo b/t the 233/239 and f14.. would be a closer hp and tq #'s match... the f14 is a 232/234 and can pump out the same #'s as the slightly bigger cam u mentioned.. nothing wrong with tsp, but go see how many ppl have hit 390rwhp with the f13, search dyno section if u want, then figure the f14 is just a step bigger then the that.
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20hp over the 231/237...... That I could get used to..

If I switched to the F14 112+2 would I have to get a re-tune or do you think I could get by on the 231/237 tune?

Did a search on the cam and I seen they rans a special last month on that cam and a tune....dang wish I would have got in on that. May have a 231/237 cam for sale real soon..
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F14 went 11.6@117 on a 1.68 60' on my car.

Keep in mind it was missing the ls6 intake or asp pulley when it achieved those numbers....
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The FMS cam will start making more power lower like everyone else has said. I was actually going to get an F14, but ended up getting a custom grind just a little bigger.
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You have to remember that the 231/237 was first designed well over 2 years ago, Lunati ground those cams for us. The cam was made around available valvespring safety margins for that time period (we still had cars that seen valvefloat with certain springs back then). Now that we have access to much better valvesprings (PRC, Comp) we run more agressive camshafts.

We don't even push the 231/237 anymore although there are customers that still want something similiarly sized, a more equal comparison with todays camshafts would be the TQ2 (232/234 .598"/.598") or the 235/240 .603"/.609" <--(one of my fav grinds) which are both very similiar to Comp XER lobes that are so popular.

I may have to get some things going to have a '05 version of the 231/237.
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Originally Posted by -Joseph-
You have to remember that the 231/237 was first designed well over 2 years ago, Lunati ground those cams for us. The cam was made around available valvespring safety margins for that time period (we still had cars that seen valvefloat with certain springs back then). Now that we have access to much better valvesprings (PRC, Comp) we run more agressive camshafts.

We don't even push the 231/237 anymore although there are customers that still want something similiarly sized, a more equal comparison with todays camshafts would be the TQ2 (232/234 .598"/.598") or the 235/240 .603"/.609" <--(one of my fav grinds) which are both very similiar to Comp XER lobes that are so popular.

I may have to get some things going to have a '05 version of the 231/237.
beat me to it. the cam has really slow ramps relative to its "big" duration and was made to work with 918's.

whats the word on the TQ2? first time i've heard of it, is it on a comp grind and how's it compare to to the 233/233 or 233/239 at .006 and .200?
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Originally Posted by jrp
whats the word on the TQ2? first time i've heard of it, is it on a comp grind and how's it compare to to the 233/233 or 233/239 at .006 and .200?
I just made that up (TQ2) as in Torqer Rev2, I don't think anyone has called it that yet. Comp style lobes from what I'm told.
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From what i have heard this F14 sounds awesome. I cant wait to get it, and put it on my car and see what ill be making then. Will i need to change the rods out? Or will the ones im running with my comp cam now be ok? and my 918s are pretty good less than 5k on them.
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My F14 should be installed and tuned by saturday I am dying w/ anticipation....
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Originally Posted by 99CamaroSS_
From what i have heard this F14 sounds awesome. I cant wait to get it, and put it on my car and see what ill be making then. Will i need to change the rods out? Or will the ones im running with my comp cam now be ok? and my 918s are pretty good less than 5k on them.
bumped this up, Need to know about the rods! thanks!


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