DriveFastAlways

Comp Cams XER lobe
234/246 598/613 113LSA

Has anyone run this cam in there 02 Ls1, this car is my daily driver and i have gotten lots of different feedback. I want to know if i will have clearance issues, how much i will need to beef up my drivetrain, and where i can get the car tuned in marlyand? I realize that this is a fairly radical cam for a daily driver but i like that. So please give me your input and some advice on how to make this cam work best. Thanks all please help!!!


The car is an 02 ss, will have stock heads, with ceramic coated headers, ls6 intake, ported throttle body, lid and filter, and will have a new valvetrain.

Derek98z

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daily driver?

DriveFastAlways

hahaha i know i know im a crazy lunatic

DriveFastAlways

come on guys help me out

Derek98z

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Did the place you got the cam from give you an idea if it would clear stock heads? Tons of people will tell you to mic it or clay it, but honestly, what a PITA to pull a stock head just to replace it with the same stock head.
As for any car, your driving habits will be a huge factor. But since you claim to be a lunatic, I imagine you will beat on the car pretty good. I think the clutch won't last forever with the power you will make.

Tranzor

new clutch, new driveshaft, 12 bolt or 9" with at least 4.10/4.11 gears. If you haven't upgraded the suspension, then you better do that too... makes no sense to have a 400 rwhp car with the crap stock suspension that can't put the power to the ground effectively.

As for whether or not it will clear, there's only one way to find out for sure, as was mentioned above. If this is a cam that is advertised specifically for a stock-headed car, then you may not have to worry about it.

DriveFastAlways

thanks, and lol no im on stock 10bolt, i know i know its crap and so is the suspension, clutch will be replaced eventually and so will the driveshaft, this is not however a drag car this is a daily driver that i want to be able to track for fun now and then

99CamaroSS_

if its a daily driver i would go a little smaller. I just order an F14 from fms, ive seen a few people with them as daily driver they give you the power of a cam with 600 lift, and still drive decent as daily drivers.

Tranzor

I'm sorry, but with a cam that sized and the stock gearing, that car will drive like ***, especially in the lower rpms where you cruise during daily driving. It'll take a lot of slipping of the clutch just to get going, and the stock won't like that... and neither will a more aggressive clutch that'll be necessary for holding that kind of power. Besides that, it'll take forever for it to get up to the powerband without the proper gearing...

If you're set on getting a cam before having the proper platform for it, and want something that lopes hard, get something that will drive better... 230 duration or smaller, I'm thinking. Just make sure to get a 112 lsa and you'll get the lope you want. A 228/228 112 lsa cam on XE-R lobes would probably be ideal for what you want and won't be too bad in your current setup.

Derek98z

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Damn I thought he already had this cam.

HELL NO don't get this cam first. As said by Tranzsor, this is the wrong way to put the car together. If you are just wanting a hard lope, get a hot cam.

Cal

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My cam is similar to that, only a bit smaller 235/240 .602/.598 112+2. I don't think streetablity is too bad and it fits without flycutting. If you like race car manners, go for it.

You need to contact the manufacture of this cam and ask them about about P2V.

Don't think the stock clutch will last through even occational dragstrip use with this cam. I didn't even get one full run out of my stock LS6 clutch. I run 4.11 gears in a 9 inch rear; feels about right. I haven't had any trouble with the stock driveshaft and u-joints, but we'll see after the clutch upgrade.

blacktransam

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that cam will be fine for a daily.. i drive mine every day.. just don't know if it will clear stock pistons though

blkZ28spt

I drive the MS3 everyday in an auto with stock 3.23 gears. It's perfectly fine for anybody who knows that it won't drive like stock and doesn't care. (237/242 .603/.609 113)
You need a big conveter if A4 and steep gears if M6 though.

DriveFastAlways

cool thanks to those who drive on a similar cam, yeah i want it to be a monster dont care about comfort

blkZ28spt

With gears and tuning it won't be all THAT bad. It'll sound like a beast, but it should behave pretty well. It will have slightly more overlap @ .05 than my MS3 and far less than some of the other cams out there. It's no Trex. (which is a good thing for a true street car)

Tranzor

It ain't comfort I'm talking about... its being able to actually drive it in your "as is" setup. Notice how all the guys who said a cam this size is fine for a daily driver have the the drivetrain and suspension to support it. Gears, clutch for an M6, converter for an A4, etc.

If you throw a cam like that in with an otherwise stock drivetrain and suspension setup, you'll be on here later telling us how there's something wrong with your car because it feels sluggish and/or bucks at low rpms, didn't make the power you were expecting, got beat by a car with less power, can't get your tune right, get wheel hop like you wouldn't believe, messed up your clutch, rear end, etc.

I don't mean to sound preachy, because god knows I don't know half the stuff a lot of the guys on here know... but I do know that it always works out best if you build the supporting platform first, then add the power. A 12 bolt or a new clutch or a bunch of suspension mods aren't as fun as a big cam, but you'll love those things once you do have the big cam.

Foundation before house, after all.

blkZ28spt

Foundation after house.....yeah, good advice.

I run the MS3 with bolt-ons (including 3500 stall converter, going to 4000), totally stock suspsension, stock 3.23's (gears less important in an A4 due to the converter) and stock rear-end.
Now, in an auto the rear isn't as big a deal. So what happened? I fried my tranny.

Tranzor

Heh... the tranny was one problem I wanted to avoid as well, so I covered that base with a mild tranny build up.

Do I really need a Powergrip HD clutch, built T-56, Denny's Nitrous Ready driveshaft, 12 bolt, and every rear suspension mod I can possibly do to plant the wheels on the ground without wheel hop? Probably not... but then again, when I dump the clutch at 6k, I ain't worrying about anything in the drivetrain letting go, either.

Randy WS6

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I have the E-XR 232/236-595/600-110lsa with a m6 and 3:91 gears ,The cam is a bad *** I've had no problems with daily driven I've even had it in peraides. But now i'm going bigger, I'm waiting for Thunder Raceing to get the T-Rex back in stock. Then this cam will be up for sale.

Beast96Z

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Has anyone noticed that the cam mentioned has 12 degree's of split? In a LS-1, that's basically unheard of. There is really no need for for that big of a duration split. Those are LT-1 numbers. 8 degrees of split is average for a LS-1, but there are numbers anywhere from reverse to 10 foward. I've never seen 12 foward. I would tighten it up a bit and run a 234/242. There''s no need for any more on the exaust.