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Old 05-28-2005, 12:24 AM   #1
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I have read tons of post in this section and have learned a lot about cams, or so I thought. I have read tons of post on all the latest "big" cams and how much top end power they make but what about real usable power under the curve for everyday driving? Seems like most people here are trying to make the most top end power they can with the biggest cam they can find. Nothing wrong with that as I am sure most of you take your cars to the track on a regular basis and every little bit helps. I want to know what you all think the best "street" cam is for good drivability (I know it's subjective) and all around good low end "seat of the pants" power. Don't intend to ever spray, go to the track maybe once a year, just want the car to have a nice sounding lope and make good useable power that I can feel between 2,500 and 6,000rpm's. Can somebody point the spotlight in the opposite direction for me? I was going for the TR224/112 which I have read good things about but is there a better choice for me? Thanks, and I'm sorry to have to ask this but I just can't find my exact question.

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Thats kind of what I wanted at first, more low power. but I hear stuff about the high end cams just pulling like crazy, Id rather have that
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i had a tr224 and it made 403 rwhp. Awesome street cam but Im gonna go alot bigger my next cam
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Thanks for the replies. Well my SS is just a garage queen and maybe I will change my mind and want a big cam later but right now I don't see the need for it. Unless I hear of a better one I should probably go with the 224. I think I would be very happy with 400rwhp.
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As you probably learned in your search there are compromises. To maximize low end torque in the 2000 to 4000 range you need to shorten intake duration which will affect peak HP. The TR224 is a nice overall cam but will not maximize torque in that range.
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your not going to make over 400 RWHP with a TR224.

400 corrected at the flywheel , yes.

I have the Tr224 and I like it. Lost nothing low end. Heads are in the very near future. Its just a matter of AFR 205s or MTI
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As you probably learned in your search there are compromises. To maximize low end torque in the 2000 to 4000 range you need to shorten intake duration which will affect peak HP. The TR224 is a nice overall cam but will not maximize torque in that range.
Ok, now were on to something. Like the much hated hotcam with a 219 intake instead of 224?

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your not going to make over 400 RWHP with a TR224.

400 corrected at the flywheel , yes.

I have the Tr224 and I like it. Lost nothing low end. Heads are in the very near future. Its just a matter of AFR 205s or MTI
I didn't say I would. Wildbills WS6/SS said he did. I just said I would be happy with that. And BTW, isn't 367rwhp a little low for all the mods you have? According to my track times I am making 318-320 now at the wheels. I would hope that headers, LS6 intake and even the 224 would give me more than 40-45hp increase. I was hoping for a solid 385 with all the bolt-ons and a 224.
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FRom the description you're giving of the power range desired I would check VINCI/Crane Variable lift cams.>>>>>>Sponsors.
The 047 cam fits that pretty well.
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FRom the description you're giving of the power range desired I would check VINCI/Crane Variable lift cams.>>>>>>Sponsors.
The 047 cam fits that pretty well.
Cool, thanks.
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I made over 400RW threw an A4 running the TR224 with a set of LS6 heads ported by my buddy....Along with all the boltons LSX,90TB,headers etc I trapped 124 threw and A4 so I KNOW this was at least 420RW but I never has it on the dyno,only tuned it on the street/track...The TR224 on a 112 makes KILLER TQ and I love the TR grinds...
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your not going to make over 400 RWHP with a TR224.

400 corrected at the flywheel , yes.

I have the Tr224 and I like it. Lost nothing low end. Heads are in the very near future. Its just a matter of AFR 205s or MTI
I did, 403 rwhp with a MTI tune and stock heads. Basic boltons and NO dyno tricks. That was also with heavy *** 17x11 chrome zr1's
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I have the MTI CI cam (222 duration) on a 112 LSA. I love it - it has more torque than stock from idle to redline. I gave up nothing but picked up over 50 RWHP and 35 RWTQ. Great driveablility and a nasty idle.

A buddy in my club is running the hot cam - it sounds really impressive - the idle is really choppy. Results were not bad either - he ran a 12.18 at 112 through an A4 with a 3500 stall - dyno'd at 377 RWHP. Stock heads, LTs, ORY, loudmouth with a bullet in the I-pipe.
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I have read tons of post in this section and have learned a lot about cams, or so I thought. I have read tons of post on all the latest "big" cams and how much top end power they make but what about real usable power under the curve for everyday driving? Seems like most people here are trying to make the most top end power they can with the biggest cam they can find. Nothing wrong with that as I am sure most of you take your cars to the track on a regular basis and every little bit helps. I want to know what you all think the best "street" cam is for good drivability (I know it's subjective) and all around good low end "seat of the pants" power. Don't intend to ever spray, go to the track maybe once a year, just want the car to have a nice sounding lope and make good useable power that I can feel between 2,500 and 6,000rpm's. Can somebody point the spotlight in the opposite direction for me? I was going for the TR224/112 which I have read good things about but is there a better choice for me? Thanks, and I'm sorry to have to ask this but I just can't find my exact question.

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the tsp 225 cam is what you maybe looking for.
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And BTW, isn't 367rwhp a little low for all the mods you have? According to my track times I am making 318-320 now at the wheels. I would hope that headers, LS6 intake and even the 224 would give me more than 40-45hp increase. I was hoping for a solid 385 with all the bolt-ons and a 224.
367rwhp is exactly what I am making with all bolt ons and true duals with the tr224 cam. I made more rwtq though (in sig).
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I have read tons of post in this section and have learned a lot about cams, or so I thought. I have read tons of post on all the latest "big" cams and how much top end power they make but what about real usable power under the curve for everyday driving? Seems like most people here are trying to make the most top end power they can with the biggest cam they can find. Nothing wrong with that as I am sure most of you take your cars to the track on a regular basis and every little bit helps. I want to know what you all think the best "street" cam is for good drivability (I know it's subjective) and all around good low end "seat of the pants" power. Don't intend to ever spray, go to the track maybe once a year, just want the car to have a nice sounding lope and make good useable power that I can feel between 2,500 and 6,000rpm's. Can somebody point the spotlight in the opposite direction for me? I was going for the TR224/112 which I have read good things about but is there a better choice for me? Thanks, and I'm sorry to have to ask this but I just can't find my exact question.

Oh, standard bolt-ons will apply. Headers/LS6 intake ect.

I am looking for the same type of cam as you are. I have narrowed my list to the Futral cams f10-f13. I just don't want to shift past 6500 on a stock bottem end engine.
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I am looking for the same type of cam as you are. I have narrowed my list to the Futral cams f10-f13. I just don't want to shift past 6500 on a stock bottem end engine.
I'm with ya bud. I think to many people get cought up in peak hp instead usable power under the curve. I don't want to lose torqe anywhere! Torque is what driving on the street is all about. 0-5500rpm's, That's how I drive this car 99.99999999% of the time. I want power I can feel when I'm going to Wal-mart. I don't give a crap about shaving 1/10 second of my 1/4 mile time.
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367rwhp is exactly what I am making with all bolt ons and true duals with the tr224 cam. I made more rwtq though (in sig).
you should be making more than that
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um... how about a G5X3 OK ok ok, so it's a big cam, but it's awesome on the street too
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