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Old 05-31-2005, 08:19 AM
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Default TR224, stage 1 heads and manifolds

Interested in thoughts on Stage 1 Head with TR 224, 114 and stock manifolds.

Is this a good cam for this setup or is a Stealth MTI II cam a better choice?

Projected power?

Other mods include, LS6 intake, ASP crank pulley, ported TB, cutout, lid. 6 speed car.Long tubes are about a year away.

PS. I have searched for days, but would like opinions on this setup.
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the tr224 is a sweet cam i would never change it in my car. i love it.
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Difficult to say, both cams are in the same power range.
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I guess I have to determine if I want it to be quiet or loud. Decisions Decisions
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With stock manifolds, the TR224 is about as big as you can go before you start going backwards in power development. Why? Because more overlap works against further power gains. The TR224 cam has around 0 degrees of overlap at .050". If you stuck in something like a G5X3, the motor would be a turd because of all the reversion into the intake since the log manifolds can't evacuate the charge fast enough, nor are they tuned to suck out the exhaust like a long tube header.

If you did not have plans on running headers in the future, you'd probably be happier with a cam designed around running manifolds like a Thunder Racing CheaTR cam. But if headers are in your future, you can certainly get by with a TR224 and stock exhaust.
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The Stealth II has -10 degrees of overlap at .050.
Choosing one over the other is a matter of preference IMO.
Also I do not know wehere pesticide lives, but the stealth will pass emissions much more easily, another factor to keep in mind.
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Thanks Patrick and Predator. You guys seem to be the true experts for these cams. It was reading Patricks CheaTR results that really got me thinking.We have emission where I live (Canada), both sniffer and rolling so that is something I will really have to consider.
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I have the TR224 also. I passed VA inspection. see sig for whats on the car.Its not exectly stealth. but you have to listen for the cam. I dle at 900 RPM.

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If you do heads, dont waste your time on a stage one port job. I say splurge on the heads as much as your funds will let you. Heads are one of thoes things that once I change em, I dont want to take em off to upgrade.
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ARE Street Eliminator heads. Friend put down 410 rwhp with long tubes with them.
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Originally Posted by Pesticide
ARE Street Eliminator heads. Friend put down 410 rwhp with long tubes with them.
Don't know if you can even buy them new any more. I've never seen ARE heads as being the small port, high velocity type. Most of them were hogged out runners that did better on max effort engines. AFR 205s are more of what you're looking for, but for many, the initial cost is a stumbling block. Again, heads are by far your best place to spend your money. Spending an extra $500 can often get you an extra 20 rwhp. How much would you be willing to spend to gain 20 rwhp after you're done modding?
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Yes they still make. Actually they are a great seller for them. I think they list for $900 USD on their site. I know the AFR are the cats ***, but more than double the price.
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Originally Posted by Pesticide
Yes they still make. Actually they are a great seller for them. I think they list for $900 USD on their site. I know the AFR are the cats ***, but more than double the price.
PRC Stage 1.5 5.3L are for $1429.00 from TSP and so far they rock.
PRC Stage 2.5 5.3L are a $100 extra ($1529.00)
Difference between the two is the exhaust valve.

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