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Old 06-01-2005, 08:51 PM
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I see fastest cam only cars running the TREX and X4 and the MS, why not the Grand Am? It's a 239/251 .570/.570 on a 106!!! Just put some 1.85 rockers on it. Why is this not a more popular cam? Just lack of popularity? That one video with the GA cam ripping apart the Cobra(in an A4!) got me sold.
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Post link to vid, please!
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I chose the G5X4 because it was proven to work and LG Motorsports is a really great company to deal with. It was a win win decision.
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What's the PTV on the Grand Am cam? Any nothching required?
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Very bold and most probably extremely false statement. You basing your title/claim on a video you saw.
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Hard to tune, and poor driveability come to mind. With the 106 LSA, you have to idle the thing up to 1100 to keep it running. It was built for the race track, and that's pretty much where it stays.
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Originally Posted by Magnus
LG Motorsports is a really great company to deal with.
Not to hijack or step on toes, but a buddy of mine has had a long and on going battle with LG
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
Hard to tune, and poor driveability come to mind. With the 106 LSA, you have to idle the thing up to 1100 to keep it running. It was built for the race track, and that's pretty much where it stays.
cams with 88* overlap and on slow ramps tend to do that
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well until now i never even heard of it so it cant be to good or have spent much time at the track. these other cams have proven there point with numbers
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Originally Posted by SMOKIN01TA
well until now i never even heard of it so it cant be to good or have spent much time at the track. these other cams have proven there point with numbers
its got tons of time at the track, just this ones got turns
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Originally Posted by jrp
its got tons of time at the track, just this ones got turns
haha, not my kinda track
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someone had a vid of it in their car, in their signature... it sounded wicked, but like stated before it would be a beotch to have it idle....
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Joel (Bink) used to/still runs this cam
Old 06-02-2005, 11:45 AM
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that cam with 1.85 rockers would be a valve train destroyer too....
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Originally Posted by sandking
Not to hijack or step on toes, but a buddy of mine has had a long and on going battle with LG

that makes two of us
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
that cam with 1.85 rockers would be a valve train destroyer too....
I don't think it would be to bad. The lobe is very soft. You could prolly get away with 918's with this cam. A XE-R lobe is way harder on valvetrain that this cam ever would be.
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I meant to put a ? at the end of the statement, my bad. I'm not saying it actually is better than the aforementioned cams, I was just wondering why it isn't more popular is all. I'm not getting the cam based SOLELY on the video I saw either. All the mentioned cams are huge, and think that they would all work. Softer lobes, lower lift, and a bitch to idle. My X2 idle is set at 1000, idles great.
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With softer lobes and lower lift, how is it going to make more power than the other cams?
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
With softer lobes and lower lift, how is it going to make more power than the other cams?
I don't think anyone said it would make more power, but here's my take on it: Softer lobes don't mean that the cam will make less power. It just won't make it as soon as a cam with a harder lobe would. Soft lobes tend to come on hard in the middle of the rpm range because the valve isn't coming off the seat near as fast. Softer lobes also tend to hold peak power longer because they have more advertised duration, whereas hard lobes tend to fall off hard after peak HP because of less advertised duration. With that in mind, Soft lobes could have the tendency to make more peak power because they can turn a few more rpm's. In most of our cases though, where looking to make power early in the rpm range, so a cam that gets the valve open sooner, makes the same power, just faster. This usaully comes at the expense of a few peak HP, but who cares casue your making more power "under the curve", and that's what counts on the streets.
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
I don't think anyone said it would make more power, but here's my take on it: Softer lobes don't mean that the cam will make less power. It just won't make it as soon as a cam with a harder lobe would. Soft lobes tend to come on hard in the middle of the rpm range because the valve isn't coming off the seat near as fast. Softer lobes also tend to hold peak power longer because they have more advertised duration, whereas hard lobes tend to fall off hard after peak HP because of less advertised duration. With that in mind, Soft lobes could have the tendency to make more peak power because they can turn a few more rpm's. In most of our cases though, where looking to make power early in the rpm range, so a cam that gets the valve open sooner, makes the same power, just faster. This usaully comes at the expense of a few peak HP, but who cares casue your making more power "under the curve", and that's what counts on the streets.


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