Motor Decision question...
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Motor Decision question...
I am gonna sell my current '01 Procharged formula, and build up my '87 GTA TA completely.
I have decided on just about every part for the car except the motor....
This is gonna be an Ls1 conversion...I was originally thinking about SLP's 402 with AFR 225's and an Futral F14..and just a plain Ls6 intake.
also gonna be throwing nitrous on top of this.
I want a strong N/A motor and a motor on steriods with the nitrous.
What motor and setup would you recommend for me... I basically want this car to drive with manners around the street...i dont want that full on race car feel. its gotta be somwhat nice...but my biggest concern is some of my buddys out here with there KB Cobra's and 600hp this and that....i want to put all that to a stop....and there is also a 655hp Evo 8 running around that i want to be able to pull...
what setup would you suggest here?
Thanks all... -Chris
I have decided on just about every part for the car except the motor....
This is gonna be an Ls1 conversion...I was originally thinking about SLP's 402 with AFR 225's and an Futral F14..and just a plain Ls6 intake.
also gonna be throwing nitrous on top of this.
I want a strong N/A motor and a motor on steriods with the nitrous.
What motor and setup would you recommend for me... I basically want this car to drive with manners around the street...i dont want that full on race car feel. its gotta be somwhat nice...but my biggest concern is some of my buddys out here with there KB Cobra's and 600hp this and that....i want to put all that to a stop....and there is also a 655hp Evo 8 running around that i want to be able to pull...
what setup would you suggest here?
Thanks all... -Chris
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Originally Posted by stang killer
Is this gona be an A4 or M6. Also whats your budget on the long block.
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Forged 347~3,000 (not a fan of iorn blocks in non race cars)
Ported AFR heads~2500
Misc~1000
Ntrious~1000
So far thats around 7500, im pretty sure if you get the majority of your parts all in one place they could cut you a deal of some sort since your dropping so much money with them.
Ported AFR heads~2500
Misc~1000
Ntrious~1000
So far thats around 7500, im pretty sure if you get the majority of your parts all in one place they could cut you a deal of some sort since your dropping so much money with them.
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Originally Posted by stang killer
Forged 347~3,000 (not a fan of iorn blocks in non race cars)
Ported AFR heads~2500
Misc~1000
Ntrious~1000
So far thats around 7500, im pretty sure if you get the majority of your parts all in one place they could cut you a deal of some sort since your dropping so much money with them.
Ported AFR heads~2500
Misc~1000
Ntrious~1000
So far thats around 7500, im pretty sure if you get the majority of your parts all in one place they could cut you a deal of some sort since your dropping so much money with them.
I had thought about a forged 347 but the problem being that i dont think i will make enough power N/A or on bottle to be able to outrun a few select individuals around my area. Lots and lots of 03-04 Cobra's around with over 500hp....most with over 600...but the two main cars i want to outrun are a forged internal Z06 with heads cam and procharger (644hp) and also a 655hp Evo 8.
The GTA should weight about 3100-3300 (without me 180lbs) pounds when everything is done.
Stock the sucker weighed 3450 with backseats and spare tire and even a 20lbs backpack of mine on a scale....so with all new tubular suspension... and lighter hood and side front fenders and no back seats as well as an aluminum block .... it should be pretty light IMO...
lets get technical guys...breakdown a good setup from your oppinion... Vendors are welcome to chime in as well
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I'd also recommend a port matched FAST 90mm intake, especially on a big cube motor. It really makes a diff over the LS6, and if you're gonna spend that much money you might as well do it all right the first time.
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Originally Posted by ArcticZ28
You pretty much can't beat the SLP 402 deal that's going on right now. And you can always have em bore it over if need be.
opinions?
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I would get a 502 GM bigblock and throw on a nice DP nitrous kit on it. Then you do not have to worry about harness, mounts and stuff. But it is almost a bolt in.
You'll have to get a 12 bolt for sure and a built TH 400 short tail with a nice ~3200 stall.
That thing will rip a A-hole to many of the contenders mentionned.
It will cost you more than 7>8K either way you go.
Then get a licence plate that says "Ratt TA"
Just to give you an idea:
ZZ 502/502 Technical Information
Horsepower 502 @ 5200 RPM
Torque 567 Ft. Lbs. @ 4200 RPM
Max. Recommended RPM 5800
Compression Ratio 9.6:1
Block 10237292 Cast iron - four bolt main caps
Crankshaft 10183723 Forged steel
Connecting Rods 10198922 Forged steel -
Shot peened, 7/16" bolts
Pistons 12533507 Forged Aluminum
Piston Rings 12524293
Camshaft 12366543 Hydraulic roller
Lift .527" I, .544 E.
Duration @ .050" 224º I, 234º E.
Timing Chain 3891519 Single roller
Cylinder Heads 12363390 Aluminum oval port
110cc Combustion chambers
Intake Valves 12366987 2.25" Stainless Steel
Exhaust Valves 12366988 1.88" Stainless Steel
Valve Springs 12462970
Rocker Arms 12368082 1.7:1 Stamped Steel
Intake Manifold 12363407 Aluminum Holley flange
Carburetor 12366996 Holley 850cfm
Distributor 1104067 HEI
Starter 9000852 Gear Reduction
Water Pump 14058915 Aluminum
Valve Lash Zero
Spark Plugs #4 Rapidfire Gap .035
R43XLS Gap .035
Fuel 92 Octane
Ignition Timing 8º BTDC @ 800 RPM
36º Total @5000 RPM
Technical Notes: Distributor P/N 1104067 or melonized distributor gear P/N 10456413 must be used on all crate engines with steel camshafts.
You'll have to get a 12 bolt for sure and a built TH 400 short tail with a nice ~3200 stall.
That thing will rip a A-hole to many of the contenders mentionned.
It will cost you more than 7>8K either way you go.
Then get a licence plate that says "Ratt TA"
Just to give you an idea:
ZZ 502/502 Technical Information
Horsepower 502 @ 5200 RPM
Torque 567 Ft. Lbs. @ 4200 RPM
Max. Recommended RPM 5800
Compression Ratio 9.6:1
Block 10237292 Cast iron - four bolt main caps
Crankshaft 10183723 Forged steel
Connecting Rods 10198922 Forged steel -
Shot peened, 7/16" bolts
Pistons 12533507 Forged Aluminum
Piston Rings 12524293
Camshaft 12366543 Hydraulic roller
Lift .527" I, .544 E.
Duration @ .050" 224º I, 234º E.
Timing Chain 3891519 Single roller
Cylinder Heads 12363390 Aluminum oval port
110cc Combustion chambers
Intake Valves 12366987 2.25" Stainless Steel
Exhaust Valves 12366988 1.88" Stainless Steel
Valve Springs 12462970
Rocker Arms 12368082 1.7:1 Stamped Steel
Intake Manifold 12363407 Aluminum Holley flange
Carburetor 12366996 Holley 850cfm
Distributor 1104067 HEI
Starter 9000852 Gear Reduction
Water Pump 14058915 Aluminum
Valve Lash Zero
Spark Plugs #4 Rapidfire Gap .035
R43XLS Gap .035
Fuel 92 Octane
Ignition Timing 8º BTDC @ 800 RPM
36º Total @5000 RPM
Technical Notes: Distributor P/N 1104067 or melonized distributor gear P/N 10456413 must be used on all crate engines with steel camshafts.
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