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Old 07-10-2005, 08:06 PM
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I know this subject has been beat to death but i really am torn between the two. I want to know everyones opinion and experience. What do you think my dyno numbers would be with the 2 different cams. My mods:

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I know that the F14 will produce more power at higher rpm but that doesnt mean that it is the better cam to go with. I also know that dyno numbers dont mean much but a good tuning tool. And the cam would be on a 112+4. Well let me know your thoughts.
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Sounds like you need the F13... I had one.... very good cam...

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F 13 is best of both worlds.
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I'm not telling you to join the crowd but, you might think about the F13....
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F13 is the best of both worlds. OR....just buy the 14 and call it a day.
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I know the F13 is a great cam but thats not my question. Ok if you want to include the F13 well how much of a difference will the F13 and F14 be? I mean i know there will be a difference some where in the rpm range but where and how much roughly? I hear a lot of talk about the F13 and i know it is a good well rounded cam. I will be happy with 370ish 380ish with my A4 locked. Do you think i will achieve this with either of the two cams?(f13, f14) Basically what i am looking for is a dyno graph of the two cams.
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Just go with the f14, it makes great power all the way through the rpm's, and drives just as smooth as an f13 ino.

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Well thanks for your help guys. I used the search feature and found a little more info on the two cams i think i am just going to stick with the F14 i dont think i can go wrong with any of the FMS cams.
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What up Dan? If I were doing it again, I'd get the F14. You'll be happy with either one. I really think you need to get an LS6 intake first or you'll be a little disapointed. The LS1 intake is pretty restrictive.

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Why not get the F15 and call it a day? You'll want to go bigger 6 months from now anyway.
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Im sure the HP difference between the f13 and f14 is in the single digits. The f-14 will lope a little harder, and you will have to spin it a little higher to make your power. Low end will be down just a little but not much. I love my f-13 but sometimes i wish i went a little bigger. Sounds very tame to me now. Id go bigger but I dont want to spin my motor any faster than now.
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Originally Posted by PunkNPonys
Well thanks for your help guys. I used the search feature and found a little more info on the two cams i think i am just going to stick with the F14 i dont think i can go wrong with any of the FMS cams.
you cant go wrong with FMS. call and talk with allen, ask him what he recommends for you. i had him do a custom cam for my setup, and he hit the nail on the head.
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Im sure the HP difference between the f13 and f14 is in the single digits. The f-14 will lope a little harder, and you will have to spin it a little higher to make your power. Low end will be down just a little but not much. I love my f-13 but sometimes i wish i went a little bigger. Sounds very tame to me now. Id go bigger but I dont want to spin my motor any faster than now.

Hey GuitsBoy - I do a lot of highway driving. Can you crusie along nicely at 70 with your f-13? Does 6th gear still pull normal? Thanks!
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Hey GuitsBoy - I do a lot of highway driving. Can you crusie along nicely at 70 with your f-13? Does 6th gear still pull normal? Thanks!
I have 4.10s so im always at a higher RPM for similar speeds, but ive lugged the motor from speeds as low as 45 in 6th gear. Usually I drive at 70 day to day, and up to 80 on longer trips and I have no problem with any loss of low end and the bucking is barely any worse than stock (after some tuning). Im really happy with this cam. Last night I just drove home from upstate, 260 miles between at 75 MPH, with two short WOT blasts to pass cars, and 45 minutes of bumper to bumper NYC traffic - all on 9.5 gallons. Thats about 27.3 MPG with mods in sig.

I did spend most of the time being very delicate with the gas pedal and shifted at very low rpms.
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
I have 4.10s so im always at a higher RPM for similar speeds, but ive lugged the motor from speeds as low as 45 in 6th gear. Usually I drive at 70 day to day, and up to 80 on longer trips and I have no problem with any loss of low end and the bucking is barely any worse than stock (after some tuning). Im really happy with this cam. Last night I just drove home from upstate, 260 miles between at 75 MPH, with two short WOT blasts to pass cars, and 45 minutes of bumper to bumper NYC traffic - all on 9.5 gallons. Thats about 27.3 MPG with mods in sig.

I did spend most of the time being very delicate with the gas pedal and shifted at very low rpms.

Wow, that sounds great! I was thinking about 4.10s as well at one point. Yeah, I do have the same problem fm11 vs. fm13 - haha, nice problem to have right? I drive about 100mi a day to and from work so highway performance is definitely important!
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My buddy has the f-11, and its also a nice cam. But after getting my tune dialed in, I cant really see a reason not to go with the bigger cam. Drivability is superb.
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I run my 14 on 3.42s in a m6 at 70mph, hell even 65 at no problem...
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Hey Brandon, were those numbers in your sig with the F14? What other mods do you have? Thanks!
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I've got the F14 in an a4 and hit 392rwhp. I don't see you having any problem hitting your goal with the F13 or the F14. I don't know much about the F11 but your goal of 370-380 is very reasonable so you could probley be there with that one too. If you want to really notice you have a cam get the F14 because its nice and choppy but you can still get away with driving it daily.
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I have not been aorund many F14s. I love my F11 but if I did it again I'd go with a F13. There just does not to seem to be a down side from jumping up in size.

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