Hate to beat a dead horse, but, heads? What do I do? Couple different questions...
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Hate to beat a dead horse, but, heads? What do I do? Couple different questions...
First, I have to pull my heads because it looks like a lifter has broken. What are some good replacement lifters? The Comp Rs? Are the Morels worth the extra money?
Since I have to go through all the work, now would be the time to look at heads. I know AFRs are the big deal right now....but what else is out there for less money?
Patriot had some problems before, so I'd like to stay away from them. MTI's flow sheets on their site for the 2E and 2R heads dont convince me that one is any better than the other...they dont use the same scale or overlay the graphs.
Anyone have links for some decent ported LS1/LS6 heads? I guess if it came down to it, I'd like LS6 heads, but a well ported LS1 head would do the job fine too. Price?
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Since I have to go through all the work, now would be the time to look at heads. I know AFRs are the big deal right now....but what else is out there for less money?
Patriot had some problems before, so I'd like to stay away from them. MTI's flow sheets on their site for the 2E and 2R heads dont convince me that one is any better than the other...they dont use the same scale or overlay the graphs.
Anyone have links for some decent ported LS1/LS6 heads? I guess if it came down to it, I'd like LS6 heads, but a well ported LS1 head would do the job fine too. Price?
Help me out here
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Originally Posted by 99ssleeper
First, I have to pull my heads because it looks like a lifter has broken. What are some good replacement lifters? The Comp Rs? Are the Morels worth the extra money?
Since I have to go through all the work, now would be the time to look at heads. I know AFRs are the big deal right now....but what else is out there for less money?
Patriot had some problems before, so I'd like to stay away from them. MTI's flow sheets on their site for the 2E and 2R heads dont convince me that one is any better than the other...they dont use the same scale or overlay the graphs.
Anyone have links for some decent ported LS1/LS6 heads? I guess if it came down to it, I'd like LS6 heads, but a well ported LS1 head would do the job fine too. Price?
Help me out here
Since I have to go through all the work, now would be the time to look at heads. I know AFRs are the big deal right now....but what else is out there for less money?
Patriot had some problems before, so I'd like to stay away from them. MTI's flow sheets on their site for the 2E and 2R heads dont convince me that one is any better than the other...they dont use the same scale or overlay the graphs.
Anyone have links for some decent ported LS1/LS6 heads? I guess if it came down to it, I'd like LS6 heads, but a well ported LS1 head would do the job fine too. Price?
Help me out here
check out PRC stage 2.5 and TEA 1.5
those are the main 'contenders' that I am trying to decide between...
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What cam will you be running?
If no more than .600 lifts then Comp 850-16 will be fine or Crane. Comp 'R' need adjustable rockers and are a pain to set correct preload.
As for heads, I just got a set of PRC 5.3L, Stage 2.5 (2.04int/1.585exh). http://www.texas-speed.com/. Very nice CNC job and hand finished. I paid $1500 for heads/gaskets/bolts.
There seem to be a lot of competition for 5.3's lately ranging from $1095>1595 (stage 2 and 2.5's)
Of course AFR's are worth every penny invested.
If no more than .600 lifts then Comp 850-16 will be fine or Crane. Comp 'R' need adjustable rockers and are a pain to set correct preload.
As for heads, I just got a set of PRC 5.3L, Stage 2.5 (2.04int/1.585exh). http://www.texas-speed.com/. Very nice CNC job and hand finished. I paid $1500 for heads/gaskets/bolts.
There seem to be a lot of competition for 5.3's lately ranging from $1095>1595 (stage 2 and 2.5's)
Of course AFR's are worth every penny invested.
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I pulled the drivers side head and it turns out the lifters are fine.
Here is what I found....rocker arm parts See pics..
I checked all the lifters and they look nearly new and all the lifter bores look good. So...hmm...do I put it back together, or just do heads....???
Here is what I found....rocker arm parts See pics..
I checked all the lifters and they look nearly new and all the lifter bores look good. So...hmm...do I put it back together, or just do heads....???
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We currently have our stage II 5.3 heads for only $1095.00 assembled per pair. These heads come with REV 2.02"/1.57" valves, orginal Patriot Gold Dual Springs, Super 7 Machined Locks, Viton Rubber Seals, Bronze or steel guides, Ti Retainers, and Machined Spring Bases. As you stated, we have had problems in the past. We have worked hard to resolve all outstanding issues. We have always worked to improve our products and will continue to do so.
Last edited by Gunnar@Patriot; 08-03-2005 at 02:11 PM.
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Originally Posted by Brandon
Gunnar, those are awesome prices! What kinda flow numbers do you have with those? please post updated info, if at all possible.
Also is that outright or + core?
Also is that outright or + core?
Here is a link to our flow numbers and all heads will come with a flow sheet.
http://sites.reachtheworld.tv/waterN...05233&DID=1225
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We have some 5.7L heads on the shelf ready to go
Stock combustion chamber
REV 2.02 and 1.57 Valves
Patriot Dual Springs
224cc Intake Runner
83cc Exhaust Runner
Typical Flow Numbers are
Lift Intake Exhaust
.100...67....58
.200...141...115
.300...204...151
.400...250...187
.500...281...212
.600...304...224
$1249.99 shipped to the Continental US(includes bolts and gaskets). No Core needed.
Stock combustion chamber
REV 2.02 and 1.57 Valves
Patriot Dual Springs
224cc Intake Runner
83cc Exhaust Runner
Typical Flow Numbers are
Lift Intake Exhaust
.100...67....58
.200...141...115
.300...204...151
.400...250...187
.500...281...212
.600...304...224
$1249.99 shipped to the Continental US(includes bolts and gaskets). No Core needed.
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Originally Posted by 99ssleeper
Gunnar...what is the chamber volume on the LS1 and 5.3 heads? I assume the 5.3s are intended for those that want more than 10.2:1 scr...