OK, here we go...
08-08-2005, 11:34 PM
#1
Launching!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
OK, here we go... I am going to get a
F13 FMS Custom Grind Camshaft - 230"/232" .595"/.585" 112LSA Cam
For a stock firehawk. My big questions now are what do I --need-- to install along with this cam?
F13 FMS Custom Grind Camshaft - 230"/232" .595"/.585" 112LSA Cam
For a stock firehawk. My big questions now are what do I --need-- to install along with this cam?
08-09-2005, 12:38 AM
#3
i got a kit that had the dual springs, pushrods, titanium valve seats for the top and bottom of the spring and new valve seals. people also say to replaince the timing chain. i did not but i wish i would have, its cheap insurance. but FOR sure get pushrods and i would get new springs.
oh and get a day or 2 off work and a buddy to help=) makes the work go much faster
oh and get a day or 2 off work and a buddy to help=) makes the work go much faster
08-09-2005, 01:34 AM
#5
10 Second Club
iTrader: (12)
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Posts: 2,034
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You will need a dual spring kit from PRC/TSP or Patriot as well as a set of hardened pushrods and a new timing chain.. You can get all of that stuff from Futral when you order the F13 cam.
Trending Topics
08-09-2005, 01:12 PM
#8
Launching!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
These are all the packages that they have. I am so lost as to which ones to get.
1. FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp 26918 Springs, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $249.00
2. FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp Titanium Retainers to Comp 26918 Spring Package (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $155.00
3. FM2-Dual Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Manley Dual Drop In Springs, Manley Titanium Retainers, Manley Seats, Intake/Exhaust Valve Stem Seals, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $399.00
4. FM2-Dual Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade-Add Precision Race Components Dual Valve Spring Kit (Includes dual springs rated to .650 lift, titanium retainers, seats, intake & exhaust seals), FMS 7.400" Chromemoly Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection $350.00
5. FMC-CAMSWAP KIT 2 GM Valve Cover Gaskets, 2 GM Water Pump Gaskets, GM Crank Bolt, GM Timing Cover Seal, GM Timing Cover Gasket
$55.00
please help
1. FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp 26918 Springs, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $249.00
2. FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp Titanium Retainers to Comp 26918 Spring Package (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $155.00
3. FM2-Dual Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Manley Dual Drop In Springs, Manley Titanium Retainers, Manley Seats, Intake/Exhaust Valve Stem Seals, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $399.00
4. FM2-Dual Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade-Add Precision Race Components Dual Valve Spring Kit (Includes dual springs rated to .650 lift, titanium retainers, seats, intake & exhaust seals), FMS 7.400" Chromemoly Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection $350.00
5. FMC-CAMSWAP KIT 2 GM Valve Cover Gaskets, 2 GM Water Pump Gaskets, GM Crank Bolt, GM Timing Cover Seal, GM Timing Cover Gasket
$55.00
please help
08-09-2005, 01:18 PM
#9
Originally Posted by markp03
i got a kit that had the dual springs, pushrods, titanium valve seats for the top and bottom of the spring and new valve seals. people also say to replaince the timing chain. i did not but i wish i would have, its cheap insurance. but FOR sure get pushrods and i would get new springs.
oh and get a day or 2 off work and a buddy to help=) makes the work go much faster
oh and get a day or 2 off work and a buddy to help=) makes the work go much faster
Oh, and I bet you mean spring seats and retainers, not valve seats.
08-09-2005, 01:49 PM
#10
Launching!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by DBeck
These are all the packages that they have. I am so lost as to which ones to get.
1. FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp 26918 Springs, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $249.00
2. FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp Titanium Retainers to Comp 26918 Spring Package (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $155.00
3. FM2-Dual Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Manley Dual Drop In Springs, Manley Titanium Retainers, Manley Seats, Intake/Exhaust Valve Stem Seals, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $399.00
4. FM2-Dual Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade-Add Precision Race Components Dual Valve Spring Kit (Includes dual springs rated to .650 lift, titanium retainers, seats, intake & exhaust seals), FMS 7.400" Chromemoly Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection $350.00
5. FMC-CAMSWAP KIT 2 GM Valve Cover Gaskets, 2 GM Water Pump Gaskets, GM Crank Bolt, GM Timing Cover Seal, GM Timing Cover Gasket
$55.00
please help
1. FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp 26918 Springs, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $249.00
2. FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp Titanium Retainers to Comp 26918 Spring Package (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $155.00
3. FM2-Dual Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Manley Dual Drop In Springs, Manley Titanium Retainers, Manley Seats, Intake/Exhaust Valve Stem Seals, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $399.00
4. FM2-Dual Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade-Add Precision Race Components Dual Valve Spring Kit (Includes dual springs rated to .650 lift, titanium retainers, seats, intake & exhaust seals), FMS 7.400" Chromemoly Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection $350.00
5. FMC-CAMSWAP KIT 2 GM Valve Cover Gaskets, 2 GM Water Pump Gaskets, GM Crank Bolt, GM Timing Cover Seal, GM Timing Cover Gasket
$55.00
please help
oh and do I have to do upgrade one before two?
08-09-2005, 03:39 PM
#13
Banned
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 1,016
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
double springs from manley
titanium Retainers
Hardend pushrods
Seats/seals/shims
done
You DONT NEED a timing chain. And if you were gonna do one.. double roller I would go with.
titanium Retainers
Hardend pushrods
Seats/seals/shims
done
You DONT NEED a timing chain. And if you were gonna do one.. double roller I would go with.
08-09-2005, 03:43 PM
#14
What do you have planned for tuning and exhaust? Both are critical if you're going to enjoy that cam.
__________________
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
08-09-2005, 04:11 PM
#15
Banned
iTrader: (92)
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 7,757
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The first level of springs are referring to the Comp 918 springs that they're asking $250. You can get those for $179 from Comp directly. That's all you need for the lift and rpm on that cam. Pushrods will cost about $100, you don't NEED to do the timing chain if you have 45k miles or less, but it along with a new ported oil pump can't hurt. You'll also need a tool for holding up the lifters. Home Depot has 1/4" aluminum rods that you can sharpen the end a bit and mark for cam length so you know it's bottomed out in the block. If you like pm me and I'll get you my cell number. Details take forever to type! Good luck!
08-10-2005, 02:24 PM
#16
Launching!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by FIREHAWK#608
The first level of springs are referring to the Comp 918 springs that they're asking $250. You can get those for $179 from Comp directly. That's all you need for the lift and rpm on that cam. Pushrods will cost about $100, you don't NEED to do the timing chain if you have 45k miles or less, but it along with a new ported oil pump can't hurt. You'll also need a tool for holding up the lifters. Home Depot has 1/4" aluminum rods that you can sharpen the end a bit and mark for cam length so you know it's bottomed out in the block. If you like pm me and I'll get you my cell number. Details take forever to type! Good luck!
Well I am at 54k so I will need the new timing chain? And I am also wondering about my cam selection. I am trying to pick between F12 and F13, I want the F13, but I am wondering about the differences in the two and how they are for street driving.
08-10-2005, 02:29 PM
#17
are you completely stock right now? If you are WAIT... don't put the cart before the horse. Make sure you have the supporting induction and exhaust mods, plus some extra goodies (chassis, suspension, drivetrain) to help get the extra power to the pavement efficiently. And as was mentioned, a good tune is critical to get the cam to run right...
Once you got that stuff lined up, then go with the cam kit that gives you the double springs, new pushrods, and requisite gaskets (option #3).
Make sure you have the supporting induction and exhaust mods, plus some extra goodies (chassis, suspension, drivetrain) to help get the extra power to the pavement efficiently. And as was mentioned, a good tune is critical to get the cam to run right...Once you got that stuff lined up, then go with the cam kit that gives you the double springs, new pushrods, and requisite gaskets (option #3).
08-10-2005, 02:46 PM
#18
Launching!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
well it is stock...technically. Since it is a Firehawk it already has upgraded suspension and SLP exhaust, etc.
So i guess it is stock, but a stock firehawk. Do I still need to add exhaust etc?
So i guess it is stock, but a stock firehawk. Do I still need to add exhaust etc?
08-10-2005, 03:08 PM
#19
Originally Posted by DBeck
well it is stock...technically. Since it is a Firehawk it already has upgraded suspension and SLP exhaust, etc.
So i guess it is stock, but a stock firehawk. Do I still need to add exhaust etc?
So i guess it is stock, but a stock firehawk. Do I still need to add exhaust etc?