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Old 08-16-2005, 10:40 AM
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Question I always hear about the F13 but....

I'm not about to be another one of those guys to ask what cam I should get, I can see how irritating it gets to everyone after a while because it's like repeating the same thing over and over. All I want to know is that people who are looking for a good DD cam are always recommended to look at the TR224 or the F13, but some people say the F13 is a little bit more extreme than the TR224, why doesn't anyone really mention the F12, or F11, and i barely even hear about the F10?? From what I know the F12 and F11 are still higher duration cams than the TR224. Anyone?
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F11 is a really nice cam. Numbers in sig don't lie. I currently daily drive my ride about 150 mi a day and i have no issues whatsoever with the cam in my m6 Z. I love driving the car. I think most people just jump to the f13 because theoretically it should produce a bit more horse with minimal difference in idle quality etc. When i decided on the f11 it was over a year ago and not too many people were running the monster cams that they are now. Either the F11 or F13 are good choices.
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It's because of what you just said. Everyone recomends the F-13 so they don't look at the smaller cams. They also figure it won't make as much power. This is a day of big cams.
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It's true, and I think my case is another example. I have the F13 114 LSA +4 and it is the first cam I bought. I did TONS of research here on this forum and elsewhere and after much thinking I made the decision. I think I will keep this cam for a long long time. I'm really happy with it.

Although this cam fits with TEA 5.3 heads stage 1.5 the guy who installed it for me was not happy with the P/V clearance. So he took the heads off and took them to a machine shop to do some work on the valves.

He did get the necessary clearance and now it is safe to rev up the car to 6800 rpm.

The F13 really shines after 2,500 rpm but that doesn't mean it's a bad cam for daily driving. Quiete the contrary, it is very drivable and I am amazed with the almost zero low end torque loss - sure, my 4:11s and the 5.3 heads help, but overall the F13 is a very good compromise between power and drivability.
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Yeah!
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yeah but all you guys are m6 guys
Old 08-16-2005, 11:41 AM
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with a stall such as yours 1LoudTA, you shouldn't have to worry about a big cam. plus you have 373s, hell a ms3 would be fine in there...

I liked my F14, even on 3.42s in a M6...
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awesome, thanks
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only thing im really worrying about is TC Lockup... sometimes if im in a conservative mood when i drive i go like 40mph in 4th gear locked up at like 1200rpms, oh well no more of that i guess when i get the bumpstick
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You can cruise at 1200rpms with the f-13 no problem. You might get an occasional surge but it's nothing like you are expecting. (from what I can tell)
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the other day i tuned a 236/.588 112 cam in A4 with stock stall and 3.23s and the car runs great! not only it idles steady, but also there is no surge, no 'cruise control', no bucking. yes, it idles at 950 in Park and 850 in Gear, but it holds nicely. once you start cruising above 1400rpm, you can hear the headers, but you won't be able to tell how big this cam is. The trick to it was to get RAF and IAC tables right.
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I have a F12 on order. Still hasn't shipped yet and it was ordered on Aug 3rd. I also plan to pair it with a PT4000 converter.

Damn i can't wait!!
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should i go with the 114lsa or the 112lsa... i know all the A4 guys like 114 better, what is it just better idle quality?
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it's all in the tuning, if you can have someone that can do it right, then it makes no difference. i personally don't see a point of going 112, but a lot of people like it, so go figure
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Originally Posted by 1LoudTA
should i go with the 114lsa or the 112lsa... i know all the A4 guys like 114 better, what is it just better idle quality?
Idle quality is one. Another thing is that the 112 will move the power band slightly higher in the rpms then the 114 would. It could be vice-versa i can't remember which way it was.

That's about as far as i can get. Hopefully someone else can chime in to explain that better or try searching for the answer.
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A guy here has a yank 3000, lid, LS6 intake and a comp cams 208/212 cam with like .530 lift and runs 12.0's @ 111 cutting 1.6x 60 foots on Hoosiers. You dont need a big cam to go fast. Sometimes, like in my case, more power equals slower times because of traction.
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Get the F13. I drive mine at least 1000 miles a month and love it. There's really no downside to it.
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a 112 lsa vs a 114 will actually move the power down in the rpm range slightly btw.
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f14 on a 114 lsa is very very streetable even untuned with a 3.23 gear i was able to drive it! ofcourse it does better with the mial order and 4.10's...

but i think its cut off maybe 3 x in 300 miles and i ahve no dynotune yet in a auto car... i like it
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thanks.. hopefully this thing is going to be what im looking for. just a good daily driver, with a decent amount of power, and sweet sounding idle.



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