I think I might have gotten screwed!Help!
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I think I might have gotten screwed!Help!
I bought a motor over ebay about nine months ago to build up. Its done and in the truck. I was told that it was a 5.3, but after my recent trip to the dyno, i am beginning to believe elsewise. Heres a list of my mods.
Ported and polished heads(stockk valve size)
MTI Hammer cam 222/222 .566/.566 112lsa
Asp pulleys
Long tube headers no cats
ported throttle body and MAF sensor
Built 4l60e 3200 stall convertor
A/F ratio ranges from 13:1-13:4 throughout the pull.
I pulled it up to 6700 rpms and my maximum numbers i could pull out of the thing was 312hp and 315tq! What the hell is going on?!?
How can i tell if this motor is indeed a 5.3 or a 4.8?
Ported and polished heads(stockk valve size)
MTI Hammer cam 222/222 .566/.566 112lsa
Asp pulleys
Long tube headers no cats
ported throttle body and MAF sensor
Built 4l60e 3200 stall convertor
A/F ratio ranges from 13:1-13:4 throughout the pull.
I pulled it up to 6700 rpms and my maximum numbers i could pull out of the thing was 312hp and 315tq! What the hell is going on?!?
How can i tell if this motor is indeed a 5.3 or a 4.8?
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not sure there is a way to tell. the 5.3 and 4.8 blocks are the same thing. I think stroke is the only difference. Might be bore but I thought it was stroke. Also my budy has a z06 cam, gibson exhaust, shorty headers, cold air intake and a powerdyne supercharger on a 00 silverado and only made 327hp and 367tq, so your numbers actually look pretty good for a heads and cam 5.3. Your intake is really restrictive and the valves in 5.3 heads are tiny. So I think you did pretty good.
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Originally Posted by conan
Take the trans off and look at the top pass side where the the bell bolts to the moter the L# is in the casting.
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Originally Posted by conan
No it will say 5.7L or 6.0L 5.3L ect Its part of the casting of the block.
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man im telling you that you put down good numbers. Dont go off all the ls1 guys that have better heads intakes ect. 312 out of a 5.3 NA is good. Stock is 240 maybe, so you gained 72whp over stock with your mods. Thats like 100hp at the motor.
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and your getting these numbers through an auto and a loose converter. Good numbers, my budy is pissed that you got that all motor and he has all bolt ons and a charger and only made 14 more whp. I really think the stock valves and intake limit it.
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Originally Posted by roadrash9r
man im telling you that you put down good numbers. Dont go off all the ls1 guys that have better heads intakes ect. 312 out of a 5.3 NA is good. Stock is 240 maybe, so you gained 72whp over stock with your mods. Thats like 100hp at the motor.
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Originally Posted by roadrash9r
and your getting these numbers through an auto and a loose converter. Good numbers, my budy is pissed that you got that all motor and he has all bolt ons and a charger and only made 14 more whp. I really think the stock valves and intake limit it.
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what kind of correction are they using on the dyno? SAE is the most accurate but will be 10-15hp lower than STD correction. And STD is probably what they are posting. Plus dont believe everything you see on forums. Does it feel alot faster than before? It should. Id be willing to bet that the 340hp would run neck to neck with you. All dynos read different.
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Originally Posted by roadrash9r
what kind of correction are they using on the dyno? SAE is the most accurate but will be 10-15hp lower than STD correction. And STD is probably what they are posting. Plus dont believe everything you see on forums. Does it feel alot faster than before? It should. Id be willing to bet that the 340hp would run neck to neck with you. All dynos read different.
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than what mods does he have that you dont. Be it cam specs dual exhaust, tire size, gear ratio ect. What kind of 60 ft times? thats a big difference in E.T for 28hp. figure 10hp is a 10th or so. Maybe a little more at the wheels.
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Originally Posted by roadrash9r
than what mods does he have that you dont. Be it cam specs dual exhaust, tire size, gear ratio ect. What kind of 60 ft times? thats a big difference in E.T for 28hp. figure 10hp is a 10th or so. Maybe a little more at the wheels.
TR220 cam 220/220 .551/.551 112 lsa
asp pulleys
long tube headers
3.73 gears(same as me)
1.7 sixty foot times for him. he has a 3000 stall, mines a 3200
his is an auto RCSB chevy
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the cam size is too close so I cant see it being that much of a difference, it could help that his is smaller, but shouldnt give him better peak hp. Who ported your heads? Maybe they ported them wrong. If the intake runner is really smooth you will get a bad burn. It needs to be "rough" to cause the air to swirl so the fuel atomizes better. Also if you went with a hogged out port you probably lost velocity and lost power. Your 5.3 intake and small bore cylinders dont need huge heads. My ls6 heads have bigger ports than my afrs but my afrs made more power. Im thinking the heads are to "big" for the motor.
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One quick question, How much power do you think im losing or not reading on the dyno when the convertor is unlocked?
All of my pulls were made with the convertor unlocked. I just now remembered that.
All of my pulls were made with the convertor unlocked. I just now remembered that.
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Depends, Ive heard quite a bit. Especialy since your peak HP isnt at 6700rpm. If its more like 5800 you could be loosing some. What rpm does your stall flash to when you stomp it in 2nd or 3rd? Also if your truck is heavier than his your stall will actually go UP! So the heavier the truck, the higher the engine torque, and the numericaly lower the gear ration say 3.10s the higher the stall will be due to the extra load on it. So your 3200 might be 3800-4000 depending on these variables. And yes you are loosing horsepower on the dyno from an unlocked converter.