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Old 09-19-2005, 04:34 PM
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First off I'd like to say "yeah....you were right." I just changed out my Hotcam (218/228 525/525 112) and went with a lil bigger TSP (224/228 581/588 112) and even though the cam is bigger it idles smoother and better all together in my M6. This is my second Hotcam in as many motors and I cant believe I actually was a believer in it.

Needless to say I love this new cam and will never touch the "good ole Hotcam" again.
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It depends on what a person's goals are, intended use of the car, idle sound their looking for, tuning abilities, etc. I guess to each his/her own.
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You knew you could get a cam that would idle better AND make more power when you first put the Hotcam in right ? All you have to do is trade the "easy on the valvetrain" lobes on the Hotcam for a quicker ramp rate cam and you'll always get a better idle and make more power. This comes at the expense of increased valve spring/valve train stress however. It's not that the hotcam is bad, it just doesn't push the mechanical envelope very much and retains near stock reliability. It all depends on what you want though. Glad to hear you're happy with your new cam
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Originally Posted by Y2K SS
First off I'd like to say "yeah....you were right." I just changed out my Hotcam (218/228 525/525 112) and went with a lil bigger TSP (224/228 581/588 112) and even though the cam is bigger it idles smoother and better all together in my M6. This is my second Hotcam in as many motors and I cant believe I actually was a believer in it.

Needless to say I love this new cam and will never touch the "good ole Hotcam" again.
Hey man i have the exact cam in my T/A(218/228 525/525 112). I just ordered the exact comp cam(224/228 581/588 112). Does this creature have a good "lope" at idle?
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The Hotcam is a great "middle of the road" cam for folks that want a great sounding nasty idle, but is easy on the valve train. People want different things out of their cars, I ran a HC for a while and no bad will here, RUN what you want,screw what other peeps think......
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Originally Posted by 02' hawk
Hey man i have the exact cam in my T/A(218/228 525/525 112). I just ordered the exact comp cam(224/228 581/588 112). Does this creature have a good "lope" at idle?
It actually idles smoother than the HotCam not as lopey but if you drop the idle I'm sure it will sound the same. I had to raise my idle to keep the Hotcam from dying out at times. A lot of people have that problem with the HC. I had a complete HPTune done on it too so it's just the cam.

Oh RACEHEAD... at the time I thought the HotCam was a good streetable cam and didn't know about the idling issues. It was fine on my LT1.
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Originally Posted by Y2K SS
Oh RACEHEAD... at the time I thought the HotCam was a good streetable cam and didn't know about the idling issues. It was fine on my LT1.
No problem BTW I have the ASA cam in my car and with careful tuning it idles perfectly, no dying hot or cold, no problems with AC on etc. It did take some careful tuning however.
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From the descriptions posted here the LS1 Hotcam sounds like what I am interested in. I want more performance without sacrificing reliability. I want a car with streetability that will run respectably on the drag strip.
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i loved the **** outta my hotcam..***** the haters..it doesnt matter what you have, there is always something better..
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Originally Posted by MaLfUnCtIoN
From the descriptions posted here the LS1 Hotcam sounds like what I am interested in. I want more performance without sacrificing reliability. I want a car with streetability that will run respectably on the drag strip.
Not really dude. Go with the TR 224/224 or what I have the TSP 224/228. It is way more streetable and gives a hell of a lot of more power than the Hot Cam. Take it from a guys who has had 2 Hotcams. I was like RedBandit and thought it was the greatest. But don't we always when we have it. I'm glad I saw the light. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are guys out there who love the HotCam like I did but I've never seen someone step down to a HotCam and like it.
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I like my Hotcam also. Someone said "its just the cam" as in the Hotcam cant be tuned to idle good. I dont know squat about Hp Tuners and I got my car to idle "too good" with the Hotcam to the point where I wanted more of the lope back. Its not magic or voodoo. Its a 219/228 with .525 lift. There is no such a thing as "its just the cam".
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Originally Posted by Y2K SS
Not really dude. Go with the TR 224/224 or what I have the TSP 224/228. It is way more streetable and gives a hell of a lot of more power than the Hot Cam. Take it from a guys who has had 2 Hotcams. I was like RedBandit and thought it was the greatest. But don't we always when we have it. I'm glad I saw the light. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are guys out there who love the HotCam like I did but I've never seen someone step down to a HotCam and like it.
A TR224 won't out perform a hotcam. We have both in our car club and the hotcam car outperforms the TR224. The Hotcammed car also puts down 392 rwhp, idles great though will much more lope than the TR224 does. I suppose everyones experiences are differant, but this is what I have seen.
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A Hotcam cam-only car at 392rwhp?

I've seen the 224 hit 400 cam-only but I have NEVER seen the Hotcam hit 392.

A Hotcam outperforming a 224 means either the Hotcam car has way more done to it or the 224 is a lemon or the dude can't drive. That's just how it goes. The 224 is a MUCH better performing cam.
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I love my Hotcam...

Made 621 RWHP with my hotcam. 11psi boost and stage 1 heads..

I had the motor out and had the opertunity to change her. But I kept the cam.. Over 700RWHP now with more boost..

I origionaly got this cam because of the price, and the fact it would be a good blower cam with a bad *** idle...

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Originally Posted by TroubledWine3
A Hotcam cam-only car at 392rwhp?

I've seen the 224 hit 400 cam-only but I have NEVER seen the Hotcam hit 392.

A Hotcam outperforming a 224 means either the Hotcam car has way more done to it or the 224 is a lemon or the dude can't drive. That's just how it goes. The 224 is a MUCH better performing cam.

Totally... dunno about your car club, but I've had both and I can tell you that there is no way with all being equal that the Hotcam will outperform the 224. NO WAY. My Hotcammed car with LT's with true duals only put down 350rwhp.
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[QUOTE=TroubledWine3]A Hotcam cam-only car at 392rwhp?
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I never said cam only. It's a full bolt on car with random cats, 1.8 rockers and a FAST 78 mm setup so it's a long way from "cam only" lol ! He goes by WAHUSKER on this board
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Originally Posted by Y2K SS
Totally... dunno about your car club, but I've had both and I can tell you that there is no way with all being equal that the Hotcam will outperform the 224. NO WAY. My Hotcammed car with LT's with true duals only put down 350rwhp.
My car put down 350 rwhp with just bolt on's ? Anyway their mods are identical except for the hottcammed car has a FAST 78 mm and 1.8 rockers. The TR224 car just has a ported stock T/B on an LS6 intake. Not exactly a "all things equal" type of comparison, but the hotcammed car traps 7 mph higher ? Like I said before it's just one experience with these cams. I'm sure others have entirely differant experiences
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Originally Posted by Racehead
My car put down 350 rwhp with just bolt on's ? Anyway their mods are identical except for the hottcammed car has a FAST 78 mm and 1.8 rockers. The TR224 car just has a ported stock T/B on an LS6 intake. Not exactly a "all things equal" type of comparison, but the hotcammed car traps 7 mph higher ? Like I said before it's just one experience with these cams. I'm sure others have entirely differant experiences
Yeah, mine only had longtubes and suspension at the time, still had the stock ls1 intake. Hey, you think the 1.8's helped a lot? Dunno, if I can run them now with the heads and all.

Dunno how the HC car trapped 7mph faster. Could you tell me the trap speed? Mine with bolt ons and HC trapped only 108.
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Originally Posted by Y2K SS
Dunno how the HC car trapped 7mph faster. Could you tell me the trap speed? Mine with bolt ons and HC trapped only 108.
It traps 113+ mph. This is a full weight car.The TR224 car traps 106 mph. The differance is actually a little bit more than 7 mph. They are both in the top 10 list in the NW section if you want to see the specifics of each run.
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LOL comparing a Hotcam'd car that also has a FAST intake and 1.8rrs to a 224 car with an LS6 intake and ported TB...not really a good comparison, don't you think?

Many things can contribute to the Hotcam'd car being FASTER, but that means the car is faster, not that the cam is better.

I've seen stock LS1 intake'd cars hit 400. Doesn't mean an LS6 car at 390 makes the LS6 intake WORSE, just means one car has more done to it that makes it faster.

Put the 224 in the HC'd car and then we'll have a good comparison.

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