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Old 11-01-2005, 06:06 PM
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Default Patriot 232/230 cam...just received..

Looking at the cam sheet...the specs it lists are...

.006 Tappet Lift
Valve Timing Open
AT INT: 34 BTOC 70 ABOC
EXT: 73 BBDC 29 ATBC

Specs for Installing at 109ICL.
INTAKE EXHAUST
Duration at .050 232 230
Lobe Lift .3476 .3430
Lobe Seperation 110


Where can I grab a degree wheel?

Installing this along with the patriot dual spring kit and some hardened pushrods later this week.

And what intake centerline do you guys suggest I install it at?

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With a stock bottom end, install the cam on a 106 ICL. You can get a degree kit from Jegs or Summit.
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what difference does it make to install it at a higher ICL? 108?109? and so on...Do you suggest I degree it ?

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Originally Posted by TheZaZ
what difference does it make to install it at a higher ICL? 108?109? and so on...
ICL is basically your advance or retard of the camshaft. His cam is on a 110 LSA, so if you install it on a 106 ICL, it will make the cam 4* degree's advanced. Advancing the cam brings the power band in sooner, which for most larger cams, helps keed the low-end power up. Cams with large advances have the advantage of good low end, but it does drop when the cam peaks and sacrifices a few top end HP. This is usaully the optimum option in a street drivin car. If your looking for all out track performance, I'd install it straight up on a 110 ICL, meaning 0* advance. This will hurt low-end performance, but allows you to rev a little higher, thus making a little more power. Since track cars live in the upper rpm's, this is there best option.
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Ok..I understand it now. Thanks for the help! Makes perfect sense.

Its going in an 04 GTO. I drive it alot but its not my daily driver. Emissions are of no concern. I go to the strip alot but like to have fun on the street as well....so its pretty much street/strip.
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Hey Zaz! Make sure to keep us informed over in the RM forums at LS1GTO on how it goes, and if you need help!
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With the 110LSA, I'd do it straight up.
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Specs for Installing at 109ICL.
INTAKE EXHAUST
Duration at .050 232 230
Lobe Lift .3476 .3430
Lobe Seperation 110
The cam is 110 LSA but appears to be ground on a 109 ICL.

I'd advance it 2 degrees with an adjustable timing chain. That would give an IVC of 43 and EVO of 48 at .05 1* advance would be ok too.
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I would have it checked on a cam doctor.IMO,I would not advance this cam.
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I would put it on a 106 ICL.
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Hmmmm....lotta different opinions here....Im really lost now. hehe.

But Cstraub would probably know best since he is the one who designed it..

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Originally Posted by TheZaZ
Hmmmm....lotta different opinions here....Im really lost now. hehe.

But Cstraub would probably know best since he is the one who designed it..
That would be the correct answer.
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I have personally witnessed 2 cars run this cam,the power fell off real fast,in both applications.The cams was installed straight up.
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Wouldnt the power falling off fast be from the 110lsa? Power comes on sooner but drops off sooner as well.
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